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Sunday, November 12, 2006

BLASPHEMY!

Sheikh Yur Buotty: Voo I still own the deed to your great grandfather



Anonymous said...

Well Claus, You fit the bill. Moral relativism to me sounds like you. A guy with a nic name that makes a bigoted slur towards a sect of religion. But you won't address that will you. You haven't addressed it thus far in the blog, so I don't see you having the manhood to stand up and address it now. You call Voo a jackass for his comment, but yet your name speaks volumes because it IS your comment. How typical for a lefty. Now run off and hide like you always do. You've lost the argument before it even began.

PS: To the other readers: It's not as if Claus isn't aware of the comments about his name in this post or the others. His email is automatically updated from eblogger with each and every comment. But yet he remains silent about the issue. Why? Seems like now would be a good time to debate the issue and give his explaination.



This has never made any sense to me. My nic expresses my personal beliefs. You don't have a right to not be offended. You have to accept other people's expression of their beliefs. The person who made the comment about Voo's ancestor also has a right to make his statement.

In a society where people are allowed to express any idea openly, the only way we have to respond, or rather, the only correct way, is to express our disgust and disapproval. I didn't post that comment in an effort to have it censored or expunged. I posted it to hold it up to ridicule and disdain as the noxious, toxic bile that it was.

You also have the right, as you have been, to hold my nic up to public scrutiny. I think you'll find, however, that most people are more troubled, and more sickened, by the kind of racism Sheikh Yur Buotty expressed, than by my nickname.

Actually, the two issues seem to form an inverse pattern. For hundreds of years, if not more, society tolerated and even endorsed racist attitudes, ideas, and behaviors. It is only now that such ideas are disapproved of. Inversely, for thousands of years, organized religions prohibited any expression of blasphemy, and punished those expressions with prison, torture, and death. The justification for those punishments actually is similar to your argument, that a blasphemer insults the believer, and god, by his words. In modern times, we have evolved to a point where we allow people the freedom of thought to express blasphemous ideas openly without fear.

So, your argument is fairly absurd. My expression of blasphemy is perfectly reasonable and acceptable, and you have no recourse but try and fan the flames of disapproval. On the other hand, one who expresses the kind of virulent racist nastiness that Sheikh did, will find almost every hand of man turned against him, and all I need do is simply accurately report what he wrote.

Now, are you done with your pitiful hand-wringing over this issue? Because it bores me.

JC

40 comments:

WFG said...

Good rebuttal.

You anonymouses are not in the same league as Claus. Until you you can reason past the standard of a 6 year old crowd follower, you aren't fit to debate anyone. Keep grasping at straws and distorting others' arguments in your desperate attempts to make yourselves look intelligent.

IsabellaSays said...

I think anonymous just wants claus' attention, hopefully now it's appetite is satiated and will leave jesus alone to continue to brilliantly pointing out wrongdoings! good job jesus!! as always!! lol
your #1 fan
~~issa

IsabellaSays said...

that should be "point"*
heheh

IsabellaSays said...

jay? i'd suggest you read and weep darlin ....fact is, i have never backed down from you or anyone who looks like you.. so chew on this awhile jay; i am not offended bc you are angry with me for changing political parties or viewpoints, nor am i angry that there are a few who enjoy spreading gossip about me BECAUSE they are angry with me for changing political viewpoints.. what i do enjoy though, is the attention you seem to put aside for me.. and only me.. babyyyy... i feel like we're dancin jay.. you leading and i'm happily following along, grinning all the while, while you gnash your teeth and slam your fingers in a drawer over and over screaming; "DAMMIT ISSA!! WHY CAN'T YOU DO WHAT YOUR OLD BUDDY JAY WANTS YOU TO DO???!!!??" lol
poor baby... keep up sweet... lots more to come ;)

Anonymous said...

It also should have been "its" not it's, which is a contraction, you idiot and "awhile" isn't a word. You used satiate incorrectly as the word means to satisfy an appetite or desire. Do you know what redundant means? You're not well-spoken and your repeated attempts to appear otherwise have the opposite effect. Your next post to jay is an excellent example of just how inarticulate you are.

IsabellaSays said...

oh damn.. stop it or i shall cry
lollololol

Anonymous said...

If you had enough sense TO cry, you would have wept for yourself, your shortcomings and your miserable existence long ago. I suspect you came from the type background where your daddy really did slap your mama when he saw you the first time. You never have been anything but trash. You own it, might as well go with it and stop pretending otherwise.

IsabellaSays said...

lol i just love making you miserable :) is your brow furrowed and the corners of your mouth turned down in a grimace? .. cuz i'm thinkin.. they probably are !! lol
poor baby, here.. have a smoke, you'll feel better ;)

Anonymous said...

Claus once again you've made yourself look like an ass.

Jesus Claus said: "My expression of blasphemy is perfectly reasonable and acceptable"
By whose standards Claus? Yours? Go into the religious section of Pal, then come back and tell me how joyful people were in seeing you.

Jesus Claus said: "On the other hand, one who expresses the kind of virulent racist nastiness that Sheikh did, will find almost every hand of man turned against him"

Wrong again Claus. 50% of the world would find it racist. 30% would find humor in it and see it for what it is. A joke. 20% would enjoy and embrace the racism because of their racist views. Therefore Sheikh's comment is actually MORE acceptable than your's.

Voo should start paying me to kick your ass in here.

WFG said...

Care to back up your statistics?

Unknown said...

You're joking, right? This is exactly the thing you aren't comprehending. You DON'T have a right to not be offended. It doesn't matter if you don't like what I say, there isn't, and shouldn't be, any way for you to prevent the expression of an idea. At least not in America. By all means, people have a right to not like blasphemy, but not the right to prevent its utterance.

As for the second half of your comment, I'd love to see you provide any empirical evidence that your percentages are anything by numbers you pulled out of the Journal of Statistics Pulled Out Of Your Ass. On second thought, don't bother. The numbers don't make your point any more coherent. What matters is that public displays of that kind of racism are, in places I'd term civilized, met with disapproval and scorn.

And The Rattler is one of those places.

Anonymous said...

Jesus Claus said: "By all means, people have a right to not like blasphemy, but not the right to prevent its utterance."
Close Claus. You're almost there!!! Now take what you JUST SAID and apply it to the racist comment. It's the SAME THING!!! That's my whole point. It was YOU that complained about someone's comment offending you. I simply pointed out how your name is just as offensive to some other sect of people. It's YOU that is placing a judgement on a racist comment being more offensive than a offensive religious statement. Hate speech is what it is and for some reason you just can't seem to grasp that concept. How idiotic is this guy?

vacreeper said: "Come now, anonymous! You can do better than that! Well, maybe not, but even you, being the neoconpoop nitwit that you are, can certainly see the rashness (not to mention the logical fallacy) of your rather laborsome counterpoint."

vacreeper perhaps you should point out to everyone reading this, the exact moment I said I was a conservative. Oh come now vacreeper, you don't want to look like a nitwit do you? I'm sure everyone will wait while you find it. Since you obviously put your intelligence above mine, it shouldn't take that long to find the exact spot where I typed about me being a conservative. I'm sure you wouldn't have made your comment without knowing for sure, because that would make you look like a complete and total moron. Correct? Well I guess you ARE a complete and total moron. I don't see it typed ANYWHERE.
Do you two play with each other's brains? Or do you just share the one?

Michelle said...

Why do you all bother? The anonymous thing is not worth it.

I just think it is interesting that people can nitpick at a name like Jesus Claus, but do not care that most evangelicals are hypocrits and blasphemous. The commericalism in America should be far worse a slap in the face to Jesus than the name Jesus Claus. He should have made it Jesus Clause, now that would have really been an interesting debate. But!! I will not go there. I don't feel like picking on Christians tonight. :)

AnonymousPoster said...

Watch Michelle respond to another anonymous post on this blog.

LMAO

This is just too easy.

Anonymous said...

"You DON'T have a right to not be offended."

What an egotistical little prick you are, with a decided emphasis on little. You, as eff does, try so very hard to promote the image of yourself as an intellectual and yet time after time, say THE most foolish things. Do you EVER tire of the egg on your face? You should just change your nick Waffle House.

Anonymous said...

I guess now would be the time to make some "super jew" jokes. Claus shouldn't mind. Right Claus?

Anonymous said...

Sunday, Nov 12th, 4:34 pm, est:
Trouble in Paradise

LordMercifulVoo: hahahahahahahahahahhaha
Jesus Claus: Voo, you just lost the argument
Jesus Claus: Thanks, better luck next time
LordMercifulVoo: CLAUS YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT!
LordMercifulVoo: MOVE ON!
LordMercifulVoo: CLaus got SLAPPED and MAD!
LordMercifulVoo: HAHAHA
LordMercifulVoo: CLAUS WILL WRITE ON HIS BLOG ABOUT ME NOW.
LordMercifulVoo: HE IS GOING TO GET ME.
LordMercifulVoo: WITH HIS "KEYBOARD"
LordMercifulVoo: IA M SO PISSED ATVOO!
LordMercifulVoo: I AM SO PISSED VOO SLAPPED ME!
LordMercifulVoo: I AM PISSEDDDED! WWAAAH!11
LordMercifulVoo: i am a super jew!
LordMercifulVoo: doesn't he know i am a super jew
LordMercifulVoo: you can't slap a suPER UJEW
LordMercifulVoo: hahahahahahhaahha
LordMercifulVoo: HAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
LordMercifulVoo: OH MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY I LOVE IT HAHAHAHA
LordMercifulVoo: CLAUS IS WRITING ABOUT ME RIGHT NOW AND HIS SAYING HE IS A SUPER JEW. LOL

AnonymousPoster said...

eff said,

You anonymouses are not in the same league as Claus. Until you you can reason past the standard of a 6 year old crowd follower, you aren't fit to debate anyone.

How funny is that! She admits Claus is a 6 yr old crowd follower!

I can debate ANYONE eff... ANYONE!!!!!!!

MysticSeaMaiden said...

AP, you have the debating skills of a toddler. If you don't 'win' you scream, kick, and cry just like a two year old.

AP, you are so well thought of your thread postings at Conversative Think go almost completely ignored and those are 'your people'.

AP come on have some fun with me, I guess you have a very short memory on how easily anyone can 'win' with you.

AP, I can't help but wonder what you think debating is, do you think debating is name calling and insulting? I only ask cause that is about all I see you do when you claim you debated someone.

So AP, do you feel like having some fun? Seems to me you don't want to debate you want to bash. Now I am sure no one here will have a problem with someone (maybe myself even) writing a little thread just for you and bashing your growing stupidity.

Now if you are game and at least two other people show some desire to engage you in a 'bashing fest' I will be happy to help you realize your dream, but don't come whining when you are shown to be as bad as a basher as you are a debater (and I don't give a shit about any of the typos in the thread as it is a thread of little worth).

~~~~~~Forever A Facetious Pain~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~Smiles full of Fun~~~~~~~~~

WFG said...

AnonymousPoster said...
eff said,

You anonymouses are not in the same league as Claus. Until you you can reason past the standard of a 6 year old crowd follower, you aren't fit to debate anyone.

How funny is that! She admits Claus is a 6 yr old crowd follower!

I can debate ANYONE eff... ANYONE!!!!!!!"


At least the really anonymous persons were more clever in their distortions. Btw, I'm male, but this user name does look feminine.

AnonymousPoster said...

Wow, Im really surprised eff. Your name doesnt sound feminine but your thoughts and writings do. My apologies.

I knew the Muse would have chime in sometime. You know Muse, when there is something of value here to actually debate I respond in kind. The tone of this blog is insults of conservatives, so a conservative is allowed a jab or two now and then in return. If you dont like what I have to say, DONT READ IT.

Has anyone ever noticed that the liberals do exactly the very things they complain that others do? What kind of screwed logic is that? I guess Muse uses screwed up logic! LOL

WFG said...

Interesting. I come off as feminine? How so? I'm not offended, mind you, just genuinely curious.

Anonymous said...

Oh, f off, eff. Who gives a rat's ass about your gender or gender preference. You're priggish. Does THAT answer your question? You're prissy, priggish and effeminate in your style of writing. You are also hallucinating or just shy a few brain cells if you truly believe that JC is some kind of 'master debater'. Masturbator is far closer to the mark, I'm sure because he certainly comes across as lonely and obsessive. The fact that you find him so intelligent is very amusing, indeed.

Michelle said...

Tsk tsk, such bitterness and jealousy that exudes from the right. This is a very amusing display. Carry on, you all are making yourselves look desperate and foolish.

IsabellaSays said...

jesus is brilliant!.. and you know it:)
kudos to jesus, the brightest on paltalk SI!!

WFG said...

Oh, f off, eff. Who gives a rat's ass about your gender or gender preference. You're priggish. Does THAT answer your question? You're prissy, priggish and effeminate in your style of writing. You are also hallucinating or just shy a few brain cells if you truly believe that JC is some kind of 'master debater'. Masturbator is far closer to the mark, I'm sure because he certainly comes across as lonely and obsessive. The fact that you find him so intelligent is very amusing, indeed.

5:46 PM

Someone didn't have his strained peas and carrots. It's also interesting to see you reverse the criticism I make against you, or the other anonymous (I'm not sure you aren't the same person). The difference is, factd support me, delusion and distortion supports you. But that comes with being able to read.

WFG said...

Oh, and who asked you?

Anonymous said...

scuzabellah shouldn't you be writing that expose'? Or has Claus not finished writing it for you?

Anonymous said...

Michelle said...
Tsk tsk, such bitterness and jealousy that exudes from the right. This is a very amusing display. Carry on, you all are making yourselves look desperate and foolish.

See? They turn something THEY do into something they claim we do. I swear their brains are not wired properly! Im convinced!

Anonymous said...

eff,

Your tone comes across as feminine. All along I thought you were a woman. The thoughts you convey and the way they are conveyed is feminine.

Are you a feminine gay person perhaps?

WFG said...

If I'm feminine, you sure don't treat me like a gentleman.

Anonymous said...

Having the title of gentleman is earned, just as the title of lady is earned.

Muse is a woman... no lady.
Zombie is a man... no gentleman.

Get it?

WFG said...

You have yet to earn the title of man, I'm just nice.

MysticSeaMaiden said...

Well Anonymouse I am impressed that you can tell so much about a person you have never met. Could you please share how you do this amazing feat? I am sure we would all love to know how you can tell how one is from online hell I bet even the Feds would pay you for that knowledge.

The intellegence just keeps growing LOL

Michelle said...

(Still laughing hysterically) Ahhh, the smell of desperation in the air. Isn't it invigorating? Knowing that people are scared that Americans might actually get a chance to voice their opinions. Americans might have a chance to rise above the corporate whores and reclaim their country back. A country reclaimed for Americans, not Bush's pioneers. Ahhh, I just love this feeling, knowing that soon there will be change and accountability. Perhaps those that do have morals and integrity will help our nation progress and heal. The very thought of running traitors out of Dodge is just too stimulating for me to dislike those that are so bitter. Justice will prevail. If I was wired like a Republican, I would shoot myself and save the American people the cost of housing you damn traitors.

Sorry about the last comment, no wait, I am not sorry, not everyone has to be so moral. Afterall, shouldn't traitors be treated like the terrorists that are being held without trial? Imprison them for years. Maybe one day they will get a trial, or maybe not. (shrugs)

MysticSeaMaiden said...

LOL Michelle

Anonymous said...

Muse thinks she knows so much about people online but cant imagine how others could tell things from other's writings? I can tell Muse is an idiot! Its plain as the font on the screen! LMAO

Keep it up Muse. Keep doing things that you say others do and then laugh in disbelief. Amazing!

Bait and switch. Thats what many liberals do.

IsabellaSays said...

jay? tell me truthfully exactly WHAT you think you know about me on here?.. don't make shit up.. just answer truthfully.. the fact is, i changed my political point of view and UNTIL THEN, you were perfectly happy with me... i sense sour grapes jay.. honest i do.

Anonymous said...

isabellah the only thing you could "sense" is a giant uncybered black guy with a woody

WFG said...

I am not sure, but I think I might have been accused of being invented by Jesus Claus. That's news to me. Given some disagreements we had on Pal Talk, and that he called me a 'wishy washy atheist (if I remember correctly) quite a while back, I think that's news to him too.

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