Sheikh Yur Buotty: Voo I still own the deed to your great grandfather
JC
Friday, October 20, 2006
OLD TIMES THERE REALLY NOT FORGOTTEN
In case you thought racism was gone from either America or Paltalk:
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JC just how far down can the levels of your hypocrisy go? Your claim here is that this person is being hurtful towards the black race. Am I correct? But yet your nic was created to do the exact same thing towards a segment of religion. I'm not saying what he said was right (although it was funny), but you're just as guilty as he is. And what's worse is ... You're too stupid to even see it.
What's the motto of this blog? .... The stupid. It burns us.
Well you just got burned boy
Claus has the typical democrat syndrome... do it, but claim its wrong only if they do it.
What utter nonsense. How Voo behaves, even what Claus' motives might be, doesn't change the insensitivity of the statement that's been attributed to Sheikh Yur Buotty. Why can't you condemn that with sincerity? Then you might have some apparent moral ground to attack Claus and the victim.
Good idea eff25
I think what Sheikh Yur Buotty did was insensitive and I condemn his actions.
OK now it's your turn eff25. Time for YOU to condemn Jesus Claus for HIS insensitivity.
Why do I get the feeling you won't respond just like JC hasn't?
Apples to oranges, but I'm not in the mood at this time to explain my reasoning. Perhaps later.
Ok. I shouldn't leave you in suspense.
A. It's not clear to me that Clause intends to be malicious with his name.
B. If you're going to assert that he does, you need to provide evidence to support that.
C. Anytime one makes a choice to be a part of a belief system, he risks being satirized, mocked and subjected to bigotry, but he can escape that to a large extent, albeit at great personal cost. A black person cannot escape through disassociation any of them, because they are an attack on his person, who he is and always will be.
eff25 that was the most pathetic attempt I've ever witnessed. I also notice vacreeper avoided the issue like a true lefty would. AND I notice JC still hasn't responded to defend himself about his bigotry. But in the meantime, let's examine eff25's statement.
eff25 said: A. It's not clear to me that Clause intends to be malicious with his name.
eff you're either blind, stupid, or a liar. Or perhaps a blind stupid liar. It's crystal clear what reaction JC was provoking when he created his nic, and to say otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.
eff25 said: B. If you're going to assert that he does, you need to provide evidence to support that.
eff are you serious? Jesus (religious figure) Claus (fictional figure) The evidence you seek is right in front of your face. I could say the same thing about what Shiehk said. Where's your evidence he was bigoted? It's right there dumbass.
Sidenote to vacreeper:
vacreeper said: as a reminder of just how intolerant, irrational, and ignorant RepubliKKKlans are.
vacreeper I will now dismantle your logic with 100% pure American history.
The KKK was formed after the civil war by Nathan Forrest (Democrat)
Jefferson Davis (Democrat) was President of the Southern states.
David Duke (Democrat) former leader of the Ku Klux Klan (1974-1976) ran for Senator of Louisiana as a Democrat in 1976. He then ran for President on the Democratic ticket in 1988
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd's outburst of racist bigoted slurs, more specifically the "n-word," on national television in March of 2001. (Former member of Ku Klux Klan)
George Wallace (Democrat) Elected Governor of Alabama in 1962 was quoted as saying: "In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw a line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say: segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever." "I'll never be outniggered again."
What's the motto of this blog again? Are you people pretending to be this stupid?
Who knows if this Sheikh Yur Buotty is a democrat or republican? What I do know is that I personally have been called some horrific names in text and on mic by some of these people (including Lord Merciful Voo) but somehow its ok? It is offensive to me to be called a cunt, slave beater, or any of the other horrible terms that they use, where is the outrage there? Voo is one of the more profane and insulting people on Paltalk. I guess he can dish it, but no one is to give it back to him? Jesus Claus you, are not innocent of this either. Get off your high horses.
eff you're either blind, stupid, or a liar. Or perhaps a blind stupid liar. It's crystal clear what reaction JC was provoking when he created his nic, and to say otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.
Do you even know how a logical argument works? It's not my job to find your evidence, nor am I obligated to interpret it as you want. I was intellectually honest because I was honest about my understanding then. Also, on the subjective end, his name doesn't offend me, and, for all I know, clause could be a Christian, and maybe, if he is, he can laugh at himself.
eff are you serious? Jesus (religious figure) Claus (fictional figure) The evidence you seek is right in front of your face. I could say the same thing about what Shiehk said. Where's your evidence he was bigoted? It's right there dumbass.
You're grasping at straws. First, a religious figure is not excluded from being fictional, though Jesus may have existed (there's debate over that). Second, since you like simple talk, here's one, get a sense of humor. You talk about intellectual honesty. Well, perhaps you're not being that way comparing the name Jesus Clause to someone's crude and hateful "joke" about a person's own family.
Btw, your historical argument against vacreepers is weak, too. Why? Because creepers intent, if you're interpetation skills were half as good as you believe them to be you would know this and, one hopes for your sake, be able to counter, was to make a comparitive statement based on how creepers sees the Republican party as it is now. Honestly, I don't agree with using such labels, and the historical case may rest more strongly against the Democrat party. But it still remains that the effective argument would have been to ask creepers to prove the implication, and for you to show defensible Republican policies you think are advantages to the black community. Finding a handful of Democrats spread over decades and over a century who were Klsan members doesn't address the issue, it avoids it.
An aside. The clock in the blog is several minutes fast.
If Jesus Claus' name is offensive, then, those that celebrate Christmas and also celebrate Santa coming to town should also be accused of being offensive. I guess corporate America (made in China) can also be offensive. Jesus Claus is such a great nic. wtg!
In 1988, David Duke ran in the Democratic Party primary for President of the United States. After a poor showing in the Democratic primaries, he appeared on many state ballots as the nominee of the Populist Party and received 47,047 votes in the 1988 general election. David Duke switched to the Republican party in 1988. David Duke was elected in 1989 and served as a member of the House of Representatives and was a full participating member of the Republican Legislative Delegation. He served on Committees: Health and Welfare, and Judiciary. He was recently elected to Chairmanship of the Republican Parish Executive Committee of the largest Republican parish (county) in Louisiana. (St. Tammany RPEC, At-Large Representative, term 1996-2000)
I guess since the Democrats did not endorse David Duke he found a home with Republicans.
It's funny how the leftyz just skipped right over George Wallace isn't it. It's like he wasn't even there. They totally ignored him during their spin tatics, hoping he would just fade into the sunset. Sorry libbys, but I remember the racism.
"I will never be out-niggered again" - George Wallace (Democrat-Ala)
PS: Martin Luther King day was signed into law by Ronald Reagan.
.....And I notice Jesus Claus STILL hasn't addressed the hypocricy of his bigoted name.
Can everyone stand up and give some applause for Vacreeper? He has been itching to use that little bit of information he dug up on the internet for a long time. (One little thing that he hoped no one would notice...over that many years the democrat party has changed as well.) What it has to do with one asshole making a inappropriate comment we will never know. But, why would vacreeper really care? He is one of the most vile on Paltalk.
Good try vac, but we still know what you are.
........ and Claus wont address it anonymous. The democrats go through life with blinders on. Just look at vacreepers comment. So oblivious to any remembrance of how racist the democrats are. Yes, I said are, not were.
I didn't skip over Wallace, I don't think the piece of shit deserves to have a comment or any other racist. But, I do believe you should at least state the information correctly. I didn't vote for any of the men listed, so I don't feel I have to answer for them. As for Voo, hey, people get back what they dish out. Some people are vile in this world. It won't be the first or last racist comment to Voo. Also, why should JC address the comment about his name? It is not racist. Isn't that what the post is about? To use the usual tactics of changing the dynamics of the post is such a bore and juvenile. A commen tactic used in Paltalk.
This article Message to America from the Racist Republican Regime:
Happy Martin Luther 'Coon' Day
by Jackson Thoreau really enlightens from a white man's point of view of the Republican party. It proves the point that yes, there are Democratic racists in the present and the past, but if you want to start listing names, let's do it. You will find that the racist Republican mentality far outweighs the Democratic in the here and now, not fifty years ago. The list Thoreau provides does not give updates of other Republican racists that have recently made the news, such as, George Allen's "macaca," or monkey remarks.
Since someone brought up Jefferson Davis, why not examine the history of Trent Lott:
In 1998, Lott's connections to the racist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) were revealed by FAIR and several mainstream media outlets-- including the Washington Post (12/16/98).
The CCC is the successor to the notorious white Citizens Councils, whose history dates back half a century to the 1950s when the groups were referred to as the "uptown Klan." In December 1998, Lott denied any personal knowledge of the CCC, falsely claiming through a spokesperson that his links to the group amounted to a single speech made over a decade before he'd entered the Senate. But the facts showed otherwise: In 1992, Lott praised the CCC as the keynote speaker at its national convention; in 1997, he met with top CCC leaders in his Senate office; his column appeared throughout the 1990s in the group's newsletter, which once published a cheerful photo of Lott with CCC members who were also his close relatives. Lott was also the guest of honor at a 1982 banquet hosted by a Mississippi chapter of the old white Citizens Councils.
And Lott's legislative record demonstrates that his connections to the CCC were no fluke. In 1978, then-Representative Lott was behind a successful effort to re-instate the citizenship of Confederate President Jefferson Davis (Associated Press, 6/2/78). In 1981, Lott prodded the Reagan administration into taking the side of Bob Jones University and other segregated private schools that were suing the Internal Revenue Service to restore tax exemptions withdrawn a decade earlier because of the schools' discriminatory racial policies (Washington Post, 1/18/82).
In 1982 and 1990, Lott voted against extending the Voting Rights Act, the law passed to insure that minorities-- especially Southern blacks-- had access to the voting booth. In 1990, he voted against continuation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the crown jewel of civil-rights legislation that desegregated education and public accommodations. In 1983 Lott voted against a national holiday for Martin Luther King, Jr., and in 1994 he voted to de-fund the MLK Jr. Holiday commission.
And Lott's 2002 support for Thurmond echoed a statement Lott made in 1980: "You know, if we had elected [Strom Thurmond] 30 years ago, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are today."
Sheikh didn't state anything racist. eff25, vacreeper, michelle, and Jesus Claus have all assumed that Sheikh doesn't hold the deed to Voo's great grandfather, when if fact he may. Ownership of said deed may be null and void but the statement didn't imply it was still a legitimate document. You idiots are too easy.
Anonymous said...
"Sheikh didn't state anything racist. eff25, vacreeper, michelle, and Jesus Claus have all assumed that Sheikh doesn't hold the deed to Voo's great grandfather, when if fact he may. Ownership of said deed may be null and void but the statement didn't imply it was still a legitimate document. You idiots are too easy."
You truly are reprehensible and disingenuously disgusting person. It's not even worth explaining it to you.
I'm disgusting? You're the one asking me to show proof that Jesus Claus made his nic to mock a religion. Have you shown proof that Sheikh doesn't own a deed to Voo's great grandfather?
You seem to have this need to follow JC's path in this post, no matter where it leads. I suspect there's a Freudean sexual explaination to it all. I find it funny how you blindly stick up for a guy that clearly has read this post, but has yet to respond because of his chickenshit nature.
Talking about giving someone enough rope, lol.
It's ok to mock slavery, but whoaaaa, when someone mocks the obvious corporate take over of Jesus and Santa Claus the world is going to fall apart!!
JC probably doesn't reply because he figures you are obsolete, get a real name!! People can't reply to people that use the same nic as five other individuals. Jeez, you all are feckin' brain dead.
Stop addressing me, you're not fit to debate me. When you gather some real decency, then we can talk
I love it!!! So Democrat of you eff.
"Dont address me"
Laughing out loud!!!
Keep baiting. You really can't be that stupid. You're disingenuosness is boring.
awww eff. Another democrat who can dish it but not take it. No surprise. When you run out of argument, you either attack or say dont talk to me. waaaaaa
If you choose to dish it, be prepared to take it. Get a backbone.
You know damn well your argument is absurd. Don't expect me to legitimize it.
Now Good night.
I knew eff couldnt stand not commenting. It even commented twice! LMAO
Bravo Jay!
There are 3 truths in this thread.
1: Jesus Claus was a hypocrite for denouncing Sheikh's statement when he knows his own nic demeans a religion, which makes him just as guilty.
2: Proof that Jesus Claus is reading this thread are in the deleted posts.
3: Jesus Claus is too much of a pussy to address truth #1
Jesus H. Christ, (any relation to you Claus?)I know that this is a free speech blog unlike "conservative think", but it is very hard to have to put up with all this neocon illogical dribble week after week.
Why doesn't Jay go post on "conservative think"..... maybe it's because no one goes there since they decided to censor their blog? I don't think Jay could go a day without some attention negative or positive.
Jay you could really help that dying blog by posting on it, since it seldom has a new subject posted.
As far as what JC (Jesus Claus) posted, all racial prejudice and other bigotry should not be tolerated..... If we all spoke out against such speech it would be a thing of the past.
I have a cousin named Jesus Hector Alvarez, MD. No one seems to have a problem with his name or with his mother for choosing that name. It seems only right wing moral majority Christians like Jay panic about the name Jesus being used by ordinary people ....lol.
As far as I am concerned anybody can call me anything they want. I have known for a long time who I am and what I believe in and stand for, so name calling just doesn't impress me.
What is so hard to understand about this? Voo's very family was attacked and demeaned by that insensitive remark, a family which could very well have had the evil of slavery put upon it in its past.
The statement was racist, because slavery and the black mans' state of slavehood is the basis upon which it was made. Saying you own the deed to someone's ancestor is not the same as saying I 0wNj Yu0 like some kid with his video game. It's not the same as mocking characters in a religion and popular myth, or as conflating them to be at least satirical or, at worst, hateful. You have the free choice to associate yourself with Christianity, Islam, etc. Voo has no such choice when it comes to his family, and they should never be used as a part of someone's immature drivel. Referencing his family that way reminds Voo, though he doesn't need it, that there are still people out there that see him as property, as of being subhuman. Even if the person that made the remark didn't mean that, didn't think it through, it was still a terrible thing to say. I know some of you get that, but what's not gotten by some is that the contexts aren't equal. There is no moral equivalency. Jesus Christ isn't your great grandfather, your ancestors may have faced hardships and bigotries, but they weren't made into property.
The disingenuous comparison is sick to its very core. You take a mock name with an ambiguos meaning as yet not explained and try to contrast it against making fun of the family history of a human being.
Absurd, through and through.
Finally, even if Claus is trying to be controversial and is pushing some standard of decency, did you stop to think that he might be making a statement about commercialism, or something not intended against all Christians?
Are you happy? I've explained it.
Oh, Mary, to clarify: My assertion on Claus is none, none that I intended. I've mostly been characterizing what his name appears to be. I don't know his intent. I admit that it would help if he said something.
"2: Proof that Jesus Claus is reading this thread are in the deleted posts."
I'll correct this for you.
I'm not a contributor and even I can delete one of my comments if I'm logged in.
Conclusion, you don't have enough evidence to accuse Claus of deleting a post.
This is a repost. I mistakenly thought there had been only one delete.
Btw, I'm not a Democrat, not officially. Also, I define myself as being moderately liberal. I'm agnostic with atheist sentiments. So, if you feel inclined to insult and label me, there you go.
I don't know about what Voo has said to you, nor anyone else recently. I've not been in PT for a few months.
I have heard voo on mic saying obscene sexual things about children, family members and not to mention the insults and sexual inuendos hurled toward members who dare question him. These include me and my children as well.
Voo deserves anything and everything anyone can hurl his way and more. He is a vile piece of trash.
eff either you have been in a hole for years or choose to be blind. Voo's behavior is not new.
I see some mention Voo's behavior and yes this 'pussy liberal' will admit I have seen Voo say some very questionable comments, but the one thing I have not ever seen Voo say or text is a racist remark.
Racism is nothing but hate, no good has or ever will come of racism. Now for people to try to make this an issue of differenting opinions is disgusting.
This BS ranks right up there with some saying all republicans are pedophiles, due to Foley's actions. It is not believable that Sheikh Yur Buotty did not mean his remark as a racist comment.
I understand that many use the blog as a tool to get attention and to vent. Others use the blog as a way of speaking their views and some to educate or to be educated, but come on enough is enough. To turn what Sheikh Yur Buotty said into "was it realy meant as a racist comment" goes beyond ridiculous, it is pathetic that some even attempt to do this.
Nics being compares to what Sheikh Yur Buotty is really reaching for something that is not even the same ballcourt.
Now I know some little attention seeking moron will be repling to this, but you all know that (unless you are in fact a racist) that Sheikh Yur Buotty comment(s) should NOT be tolerated by any human, no matter their political views.
To come and say some of the things I have seen here only help to increase racism and that is just sad. Some people really do need to grow up, get a life and stop acting like a child.
Ok all you little scared anonyMICE attack away (oh you too Jay, don't want you to feel left out)
~~~~~~Forever A Facetious Pain~~~~~~
Voo spent much of his time in Mainstream Politics, which I rarely went into, from what I recall, and I've only been in a room with him a handful of times.
"...but the one thing I have not ever seen Voo say or text is a racist remark."
If you havent heard Voo say "honkey white ass" or Honkey this or that.. then you havent been listening. I think you probably think its not racist to mention a white persons race though. Such hypocrits you dumbass liberals are.
Can't you two, or however many, get it? Creeper might not have been so directly defensive of Voo had you had the maturity to have politely expressed your negative criticism of Voo from thew beginning.
Here, I'll put the request in for you.
Would a contributor to this blog please create a post discussing the conduct of Voo?
eff are you angry because vacreeper's tounge can go farther in Voo's ass than your's?
Tell me, are you really mad at me, or mad at the rational Christians whom must surely have asked you not to speak in their defense anymore?
I have to say that the remark was obviously racist , but, Voo does dish out alot of shit to people. He gives back what he gets. I am not supporting the comment, but, I have to say I have heard Voo at least twice demean white women, in which I left the room. Like I always say, the end does not justify the means? Something like that. In the initial post about Sheikh Yur Buotty, what disturbed me was the obvious attempt by certain posters to make it political. What is even more disturbing is that someone would support the racist comment, as long as it is aimed at Voo or (gasp) a liberal. Do you think perhaps it upset another person in the room that is not like Voo? Paltalk is full of people with ugly souls, I don't see why anyone is surprised about the comment.
Ugly souls? There's a reason I stopped going to Pal Talk. Heck, no offense to those here that may have and would, and I've sometimes agreed with her, but there are, I'm sure, still people in Pal Talk that seem to think JaneBond is a saint.
* would believe as such.
Well said vacreeper. As the ex-wife and widow of two dedicated career military men "armchair warriors" like jay_the_jerk_off make me wanna puke.
Jay is like someone directing people to run into a burning build to save a gas can, while he stands on the side walk selling pop corn, soda and post cards.
Vacreeper, you havent been in Iraq. You have been on Paltalk for years. There has been no long break in your disgusting appearance in the Social Issues room.
Well Vac, YOU should put down the pipe!
You have not been gone from Paltalk for a long period of time much less 90 days. You are not in the air force either. You have too much time online to be in the AF. Stop the lying.
When I blogged, I almost never got comments. Honestly, it was mainly because I got so few of them that I quit. I'm noow thankful that I was spared such monotonous bickering as is now present here. Sometimes it's true that things can be worse.
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