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Friday, November 18, 2005

THE "WE WON" ARGUMENT

I just got finished spanking MrArchieBunker like a disobedient gimp, and something occurred to me as I spoke. Most people who frequent Mainstream know that conservatives are often obsessed with who wins and who loses in politics. Take note of this tired statement from Arch:

MrArchieBunker: POOR CLAUS, HE HATES THE FACT THAT THERE HAS BEEN 4 2 TERM GOP PRESIDENTS SINCE 1950

Now, even taking into acc- wait. Hold on. I just noticed something. He said four 2-term presidents. Since 1950. So, Eisenhower was the first, and Dubya is the latest. Going back, we have Reagan...and then...

Oh. Holy shit. He's counting Nixon. Nixon, the president whose name is synonymous with corruption. The man who was forced to resign, in disgrace, because of his involvement in sleaze. That is the best argument Archie has? Counting up terms and years, and having so little substance to your argument that you resort to using a scumbag like Nixon to shore yourself up? That's like using a jackhammer to bail out a leaky boat. It's like wearing a lead-lined bathing suit. What kind of idiot makes arguments like this?

Hello? Can we get a ruling over here? We deserve a better caliber of conservatice on PT. Is there someone we can talk to about this? Is there a temp agency we can get a few substitutes from until someone can look into the critical shortage of intelligent conservatives on PT? You know, this would never happen while a Democrat was president.

JC

THE STOOGIES ARE AFRAID

Man, things are popping in old Mainstream. Everyone's favorite whipping boy, Sword of the Amish was spouting his racist crap and again calling for the murder of the protesters in France by saying if he was the president he would have called armed police to start firing on the crowd. MrArchieBunker commited a Paltalk TOS (Terms of Service) violation by releasing the name of a home town where a chatter lived. And Unclebob5 was playing cheerleader as always. The fun never stops in that room with those 3 stoogies running around with a live mic and live text chatting.

Now, it seems that another revolting repuke has joined their ranks: Fanciful Woman....I had never met this person before but I tell you...this addition to the loony right in Mainstream tried to scare me by posting the same old tired arguments. Now, I dont know if she was new or what but i was hoping that she could have come up with some new insults and half-truths but no, she acted like she was a recent gradulate of the Vic Ferreri school of Dem bashing and making an ass of one's self (I heard that Brutelogic is asst. dean of that school).
All in all, just another 30 mins in the life that is Mainstream.

THE RATTLER GROUP

"It matters what you think. And it matters what we can make you think..."

Take a look at this post from Think Progress about the Bush administration using a PR group to sell the war:

From “Saddam Hussein’s Development of Weapons of Mass Destruction” [White House website]:

In 2001, an Iraqi defector, Adnan Ihsan Saeed al-Haideri, said he had visited twenty secret facilities for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. … Mr. Saeed said Iraq used companies to purchase equipment with the blessing of the United Nations - and then secretly used the equipment for their weapons programs.

None of al-Haideri’s claims were true. Today’s Rolling Stone reveals that the administration’s use of al-Haideri’s lies to justify the Iraq war were “the product of a clandestine operation…that had been set up and funded by the CIA and the Pentagon for the express purpose of selling a war.”

At the center of this operation was John Rendon and The Rendon Group, “a controversial, secretive firm that has been criticized as ineffective and too expensive,” more than $56 million since the 9/11 attacks. (Taxpayers are paying him $311.26/hour.)

The Rendon Group personally set up the Iraqi National Congress and helped install Ahmad Chalabi as leader, whose main goal — “pressure the United States to attack Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein” — Rendon helped facilitate. Pentagon documents show that Rendon has the highest level of government clearance (above Top Secret), which helped it with its INC work — “a worldwide media blitz designed to turn Hussein…into the greatest threat to world peace.”

While the White House continues to insist it did not manipulate intelligence before the Iraq war, it sure seems that it hired John Rendon and his group to do just that.


This gives me a great idea. I am now incorporating The Rattler Group®. Take a look at our first press release. I hope we get hired:

The Rattler Group® (TRG) is a forward looking public relations firm specializing in targetted web interactivity programs and creating influence for our clients with opinion leaders within the chatroom paradigm. As the president and CEO of TRG, I will lead the effort in acheiving our corporate goals.

We represent an organization dedicated to the overthrow of chatroom dictator LordMercifulVoo, as well as his deputies-in-crime Karl d-az (aka EdeKit, aka LewBah,(amazing how many aliases criminals have, eh?)) Karen_Dances, and others. TRG has discovered several extremely reliable witnesses to the egregious violations of decency by this gang of thugs.

Mr. Jack Noddafakenayme relates his experience: "I was sitting next to Voo, the butcher of Mainstream, after a meal of burriitos. He then released a toxic cloud of biological origin. It was horrible. I personally witnessed several strong men collapse from the biological WMD attack. If Voo is not stopped, millions may be mildly nauseated."

Compelling testimony, and surely evidence of a callous indifference to human life. But listen to even more horrifying stories.

Mr Bob Toddalyreelguy came forward after much encouragement to relate the following: "On several occasions, I have seen Karl d-Az leave the toilet seat up after using it, even though it is extremely inconsiderate to his girlfriend. I have no doubt that, if left unchecked, Karl will undoubtedly also forget to empty the dishwasher."

Unsettling, to say the least. But we have saved the best for last. After hearing this, leaders will have no choice but to agree that these dangerous individuals must be stopped.

Mrs. Jane Trustworthyson has been living in protective custody because of what she witnessed, and is only now able physically to testify to the horrors she has seen: "I...I was sitting on a chair in a windowless room with peeling paint and crumbled bricks in the wall. Karen_Dances was in the next room, and I could see her clearly through the open doorway. She stood in the light...of, oh god...the refrigerator...and in her hand...I can hardly say it...she had the milk. And she raised the milk to her lips....and drank from the carton! For the love of god, from the carton! And she put it back and walked away and oh sweet jesus, the backwash, won't someone think of the backwash!"

Unspeakable horror. And all from the admins of this tiny chatroom. Clearly, we at TRG have a duty to act, to bring this testimony to light, and convince the Congress and the American people to invade Mainstream, and remove these brutal dictators. And for a small fee of 40 million dollars, in large, unmarked, nonsequential bills, TRG will provide a full service suite for all your propaganda needs.

I think you know what the patriotic thing to do is.


JC

DO YOU KNOW?

This Duck had a to take a lunch break today from his day job and post on the Rattler. While searching for intriguing information, this Duck found this picture on the web. I guess even Bush and Putin don't even know Jes, the Mainstream Politics Troll.

This Duck says Quack Quack.....!!

HATE ON TAP

For those who enjoy the antisemitic circus show we often see in Mainstream, here is a recent survey by the Anti-Defamation League on European antisemitism. As an aside, everyone should be aware that, although the word "semite" refers to anyone of a certain area of Middle Eastern descent, the term "antisemite" refers in common usage to hatred and discrimination specifically against jews. The fact that terms can hold meanings irrespective of their etymologies is lost on some people. In addition, antisemitism by any other name is still hatred of jews, (as people, not hatred of the religion in the abstract) and focusing on etymology rather than on the issue itself will appear to be an attempt to muddy the waters of the debate. From the survey:

The survey, Attitudes Toward Jews in Twelve European Countries, was released to coincide with the Conference on Anti-Semitism and on Other Forms of Intolerance sponsored by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), in Cordoba, Spain June 8-9. The countries surveyed were: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Italy, Germany, The Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and for the first time, Hungary and Poland.

Respondents across the continent were asked a series of indicator questions representing the most pernicious notions of anti-Semitism and whether or not they thought the following four statements were "probably true" or "probably false."

• Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country.
• Jews have too much power in the business world.
• Jews have too much power in international financial markets.
• Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust

Respondents were also asked whether they agree or disagree with the following statement:
• The Jews are responsible for the death of Christ

Finally, respondents were asked:
• If their opinion of Jews was influenced by actions taken by the State of Israel and whether they believed the violence directed against European Jews was a result of anti-Jewish feelings or anti-Israel sentiment.

Findings Summary

• A plurality of those surveyed across Europe, 43 percent, believe that Jews are more loyal to Israel than to their own country, with a majority of respondents in Italy, Germany, Poland and Spain saying they believe that this statement is "probably true."

• Alarmingly high levels of those surveyed across Europe still believe in the traditional anti-Jewish canard that "Jews have too much power in the business world." Overall, nearly 30 percent of all respondents believe this stereotype to be true.

• Similarly, European respondents still adhere to the notion that "Jews have too much power in international financial markets." Overall, 32 percent of those surveyed cling to the traditional stereotype.

• Large portions of the European public continue to believe that Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust. Overall, 42 percent of those surveyed believe it is "probably true." In fact, a plurality of respondents in Austria, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Spain and Switzerland believe this notion to be true.

• Overall, 20 percent of those surveyed across Europe continue to blame Jews for the death of Jesus.

• Overall, 29 percent of those surveyed across Europe say that their opinion of Jews is influenced by the actions taken by the State of Israel.

• Of those respondents whose opinions are influenced, a majority, 53 percent, say that their opinion of Jews is worse as a result of the actions taken by Israel.

"The findings of this survey demonstrate that individual governments, the EU and the OSCE, who have condemned anti-Semitism and sought ways to counteract it, are being challenged to find a formula that will break down the old stereotypes that die hard," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director.

"Millions of Europeans still accept a wide range of traditional anti-Semitic stereotypes, including the charge that Jews are more loyal to Israel than to their home country. These attitudes help incite and legitimize anti-Semitism and, coupled with an atmosphere where violence against Jews is still prevalent, give us great cause for concern."


One good sign is that many of the numbers for Europe are in decline, but there are still an alarmingly high number of people who seem to have animosity toward jews as people. Looking through those ideas you see above, you can pick out many things that are said in the room that closely mirror these statements. People will insist they are "not against jews, I'm against Israel," and yet their arguments for why they oppose Israel include these antisemitic ideas. (jews have too much power, jews get special treatment because of the Holocaust, jews are plotting to take over the world)

Europe is also relatively tame compared to much of the Arab world. A brief viewing of editorial cartoons from Arabic newspaper reveals an array of traditional antisemitic images. These newspapers also traffic heavily in the supposed plots by jews to ruin or take control of the world.

As much as I would like to believe that everyone in chat has pure motives, history teaches us otherwise. And I know I'm not alone in having engaged a supposedly "anti-Israel" person in debate, only to have their secret bigotry be revealed in their endorsements of classic antisemitic ideas. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people whose criticism of Israel has not been closely followed by bigoted ideas. I think enough has been said on this topic, next post, back to teh funny!

JC

Thursday, November 17, 2005

TUNA-ING PART 2


the t-shirt

PHIL LESH






















les claypool and buckethead

He's One Baaaaad Murtha!


Maybe now people will start to see that the Democrats (finally) mean business. US Representative John Murtha (D-Pa) today called for IMMEDIATE withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. Murtha, 73, is a decorated former marine and has served in Congress since 1973. While he did make the grave mistake of supporting the war in the beginning, it seems that he has now come to his senses and realized that the proverbial wool was pulled over the eyes of too many members of Congress. The Iraq War, according to Murtha,

" is not going as advertised. It's a flawed policy wrapped in illusion. The American public is way ahead of the members of Congress."

Amen, Rep. Murtha. It's about time that these lawmakers started to realize that we the proletariet are not as easily fooled as they think. Hopefully this trend of republican ball-busting will continue, and we will soon see the end of this mistake of a war. It's good to know, at least, that the gears are beginning to turn in the democratic party, and people are starting to call for serious and prompt change. This should be a call to those across the board - whether they like to call themselves democrats, liberals, progressives, or even independants - to jump on the bandwagon and start to put more pressure on this administration. Now is the time to stop complaining and act. People like Murtha here and Harry Reid have set the stage for us - now it's time to pick up the ball and run with it. Plan a demonstration, contact your representatives - anything - just ACT. We can no longer afford to silently sit by while corruption runs rampant in our government. And it is only "we the people" who can make the difference.

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men."

~Abraham Lincoln (A republican!)




NEEDS TUNA-ING

Ok, that was one time too many. frank- just mentioned GBLP on mic. Let's have a remedial course for those of you who apparently were in a chrysalis and have now burst free, moth-like, fully formed and completely ignorant. The world can be a very confusing place. First lesson. This is a bass:

It's slimy. Swims in lakes. Is hookphobic. And a good listener. Now take both hands, reach around behind your back below your waist, and grab. That is your ass. Bass rhymes with ass. Second lesson. This is a bass:

It's hard. You can strum it or pluck it. You can play music on one, but compared to Phil Lesh or Les Claypool, you suck. Try going to a bar. Find an attractive woman, and grab her ass. (See lesson one) She will then spray something in your eyes. This is called mace. Bass rhymes with mace. I know it stings. Don't be such a baby.

Now this:

This is an abomination, and should not be. Damn those scientists, trying to play god!

JC

CAN'T...STOP...BLEEDING...

Ouchie!

Over at Think Progress, they have an item about the massive wound the Republicans took in the House today:

In a dramatic rebuke of conservative leadership, the House has defeated the Labor, Health and Human Services and Education spending bill for Fiscal Year 2006. This year’s bill, which contains one-third of all domestic spending, calls for deep cuts in critical government programs.

The vote was scheduled for 15 minutes but lasted more than a half hour. This time, the conservative leaders couldn’t twist enough arms.


This was just a brutal defeat. How embarrassing to use procedural chicanery to keep a vote open, and yet still fail to pass the bill. This is the beginning of the end of total dominance by Republicans. And this poisonous bill contained cuts for needy people, and pork for those who want for nothing. Feh, good riddance.

JC

FINALLY, A SERIOUS ISSUE

The hidden menace...

So, I'm reading a parenting magazine, and they have letters from parents talking about things their toddlers do that annoy them. And one parent writes that her daughter is obsessed with toe-boogies. When you wear socks, little balls of cottom fluff get stuck to your feet and between your toes. I take my socks off, and there they are. Toe-boogies.

For crimeny's sake, we can put a man on the moon. We have devices that let us clamp bread and cheese together and cook a grilled cheese sandwich over the stove. I've got porn on demand on my computer within minutes. And you're telling me we can't do anything about toe-boogies? When will some enterprising person invent the boogie-less sock? What are we paying those eggheads over at the National Institute of Health for? Cure cancer? Dammit, man, get these boogies out of my toes!

JC

JES SAY?!

THE CURSE OF THE RED DOTS

Man, pal talk has a big problem. it called the red dottters. These people are admins who are drunk with power who will silance you if they dont like what you are saying. My case in point is this guy who loves to shut me up every chance he gets. I picture him in his big lazyboy with a mouse has big as a remote control and as soon as he sees me start to talk....BAM, hello mr.dot and good bye to free speech. My last run in with this God of Censorship was in a free speech room. A friend of mine had just getting done with a speech about the young people taking back the dem party. I went to support her and he slammed me in under 4 secs. Then he let me go, i went to take him up to task for it, WHAM! he did it again. He did it 1 more time. So, i ask myself this question:
So, much for free speech ,huh?

MY APOLOGIES

Sorry about the light posting by me today. I had to drive into Manhattan, and now I think I'm catching a cold. And, looking back on that sentence, I seem to be saying Manhattan is contagious. Anyway, you'll hear from me again tomorrow night, assuming I survive these sniffles.

JC

Wednesday, November 16, 2005

RE:noooogie




TAKE CARE KIND BROTHER

Unbroken Chain
Lyrics: Bobby PetersenMusic: Phil Lesh
Blue light rain, whoa,
unbroken chain
Looking for familiar faces
in an empty window pane
Listening for the secret,
searching for the sound
But I could only hear the preacher
and the baying of his hounds
Willow sky,
whoa,
I walk and wonder why
They say love your brother
but you will catch it
when you try
Roll you down the line boy,
drop you for a loss
Ride out on a cold railroad
and nail you to a cross
November and more as
I wait for the score
They're telling me
forgiveness is the key to every door
A slow winter day,
a night like forever
Sink like a stone,
float like a feather
Lilac rain,
unbroken chain
Song of the Saw-Whet owl
Out on the mountain
it'll drive you insane
Listening to the winds howl
Unbroken chain
of sorrow and pearls
Unbroken chain
of sky and sea
Unbroken chain
of the western wind
Unbroken chain
of you and me

noooogie kindest of brothers fare thee well

Fare you well, my honey,
fare you well my only true one.
All the birds that were singing are flown,
except you alone.
Going to leave this brokedown palace,
On my hand and knees,
I will roll, roll, roll.
Make myself a bed in the waterside,
In my time, I will roll, roll roll.
In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside
I will lay my head.
Listen to the river sing sweet songs,
to rock my soul.
River going to take me,
sing sweet and safely
Sing me sweet and safely
all the way back home.
It’s a far gone lullaby,
sung many years ago.
Mama, mama many worlds I’ve come since I first left home.
Goin’ home, goin’ home,
by the riverside I will rest my bones,
Listen to the river sing sweet songs,
to rock my soul.
Going to plant a weeping willow,
On the bank’s green edge it will grow, grow, grow.
Sing a lullaby beside the water,
Lovers come and go, the river roll, roll, roll.
Fare you well, fare you well, I love you more than words can tell,
Listen to the river sing sweet songs,
to rock my soul

NEW INTELLIGENCE!


The Duck just received new intelligence on Saltsprings Wiener?

It wasn't suprising to say the least.

SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT

I'm only happy when I'm attacking Democrats

I was having a discussion with Casey earlier about Democratic Party strategy, and on many issues, we do agree. But one thing we don't agree on is Joe Lieberman. Casey sees him as in some ways a necessary evil. I think his constant undermining of the Democratic Party, and his crossing over party lines to lend legitimacy to the opposition is unforgivable. Allowing him to attack his own party cements in the public's mind not only the canard that Democrats are wrong on the issues, but that the party as a whole is fractured and without direction. It also blunts our attempts to effectively fight Republican corruption and sadistic policy.

Take a look at how this works in the opposite direction. For a long time, the Republicans have benefitted from lock-step party loyalty. Consider how far Bush has fallen for Chuck Hagel to be this bold. Via Eschaton, from the Washington Post:

Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) strongly criticized yesterday the White House's new line of attack against critics of its Iraq policy, saying that "the Bush administration must understand that each American has a right to question our policies in Iraq and should not be demonized for disagreeing with them."

With President Bush leading the charge, administration officials have lashed out at Democrats who have accused the administration of manipulating intelligence to justify the war in Iraq. Bush has suggested that critics are hurting the war effort, telling U.S. troops in Alaska on Monday that critics "are sending mixed signals to our troops and the enemy. And that's irresponsible."

"To question your government is not unpatriotic -- to not question your government is unpatriotic," Hagel said, arguing that 58,000 troops died in Vietnam because of silence by political leaders. "America owes its men and women in uniform a policy worthy of their sacrifices."

Hagel said Democrats have an obligation to be constructive in their criticism, but he accused the administration of "dividing the country" with its rhetorical tactics.

Hagel supported the 2002 resolution to authorize military action in Iraq, but he has emerged as a strong skeptic of the Bush administration's handling of the war. In his speech, he called for a regional security conference to help invest Iraq's neighbors in the effort to stabilize the country.

At one point, while answering a question from the audience about Syria, Hagel suggested that the Middle East is worse off after the invasion because the administration failed to anticipate the consequences of removing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. "You could probably argue it is worse in many ways in the Middle East because of consequences and ripple effects," he said.

Now, how pissed off do you think the Bush WH is at Hagel? This is Hagel trying to distance himself from Bush, to save his own political skin. And he comes out just as Bush is beginning this push to demonize the Dems, and he gives the media a blast at Bush like this? You think this doesn't hurt them? You think they aren't furious that their rhetoric has been blunted by one of their own? And this is what some Dems are willing to put up with from Lieberman? No thank you. We need Lieberman like we need a hole in the head. Losing his seat to a Republican would be a small price to pay to get rid of stories like the above, except it's him ripping into his party and its leadership. Please.

JC

DEEP BUTT

Gotta cash my check...

Holy shit! Via Eschaton, a new development in the Plame case. It seems Bob Woodward, of Watergate fame, is actually a major player in this scandal. In tomorrow's Washington Post:

Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward testified under oath Monday in the CIA leak case that a senior administration official told him about CIA operative Valerie Plame and her position at the agency nearly a month before her identity was disclosed.

In a more than two-hour deposition, Woodward told Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald that the official casually told him in mid-June 2003 that Plame worked as a CIA analyst on weapons of mass destruction, and that he did not believe the information to be classified or sensitive, according to a statement Woodward released yesterday.

Fitzgerald interviewed Woodward about the previously undisclosed conversation after the official alerted the prosecutor to it on Nov. 3 -- one week after Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was indicted in the investigation.


Woodward was on CNN before the Libby indictment dropped, minimizing this investigation, and pooh-poohing the idea of this being a serious leak. And this bastard knew there was leaking because he was the recipient of a leak. This guy has been in the bag since he made a new career of writing hagiography for Dubya. Unfreakingbelievable.

JC

Tuesday, November 15, 2005

NOOOOOGIE WITHDRAWALS


As the moving finger, having writ, moves on. We remember Nooogie with affection, and when the nightmares become too much, we can always rely on FUKITOL!

PEOPLE POWER


People power has usually worked well in Australia. When pushed, Aussies push back. 10,000 people marched the streets of Perth yesterday, to protest against the harsh new Industrial Relations laws John Howard wants to impose on the Australian worker. The laws will be passed, because Howard has control of both houses of parliament, but Kim Beazely (opposition leader) has declared that his first act as our new Prime Minister will be to TEAR UP Howards laws! A certain sweetener for new Labour voters. Pictured here is the "Palace Hotel" a famous landmark saved from developers by people power in a previous campaign. We can take courage in that. When pandoras box is emptied, hope remains.

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