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Wednesday, September 12, 2007

ARMS RACE INSANITY

RUSSIA has tested the world's most powerful vacuum bomb, which unleashes a destructive shockwave with the power of a nuclear blast, with the military dubbing it the "father of all bombs".
It is four times more powerful than the US-built massive ordnance air blast bomb — MOAB, also known under its name Mother of All Bombs.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/russia-tests-father-of-bombs/2007/09/12/1189276807323.html

As we rush headlong into a slavery of fear, The military juggernaut rolls on, crushing all humanity in it's path.

9 comments:

zipperdedoodah said...

The Russians have described the vacuum bomb as "environmentally friendly", bwaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha, they reach that conclusion due to the fact that it doesn't deposit radioactive material. It only kills, maims and destroys. lol

Eff25 said...

Well, I still have an American-centric view on this. I like weapons big and powerful, but mostly for show. I think a society can have both, guns and laurel leaves, it's a matter of proper allocation and oversight.

Weetbix101 said...

eff damn right big weapons are sexy . Those lucky one who survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki should stop whingeing and be more appreciative. Moreover money spent on them is not money wasted on health care.

Eff25 said...

I in no way defined what should be spent on healthcare. I said I like powerful weapons in my nation's arsenal. I have not attacked healthcare spending, nor have I expressed any direct, let alone strongly indirect, unequal favoritism toward military spending over domestic spending, though military spending is partially domestic. In fact, reading my comments properly shows the opposite.

Eff25 said...

The Hiroshima, etc., comment, was just a low class emotive swipe. And, no, I don't feel a moral obligation to remove personal arms because it makes others feel bad.

You might believe, Weet, that an anti, or heavily restrictive, additute toward weapons, even if never used, makes you enlightened, but I don't.

I believe a powerful military can co-exist with a good healthcare system, if you don't, either you are correct, or are admitting to wanting the same thing you've accused me off, trying to underfund one in favor of another.

Weetbix101 said...

U called the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki a low class emotional swipe?
What do u think that big powerful sexy big guns are designed for? How much do they cost to develop? Have they ever being used? and if yes by whom? u've seen any grainy black and white footage of the aftermath of such test?
Yep u do indeed have an American centric view on these matters as ur not on the receiving end of ur beloved big guns.Wondering what ur thoughts would be if one of this device was dropped on ur community.I've spent more than 4 years years in South East Asia and have visited Laos Cambodia Vietnam and Japan several times and witnessed the results of the american led wars.
This is totally evil...500.000 died in Cambodia alone for no good reasons.( u wont even at war with them...it just happened that Kissinger and Nixon thought it was a good plan).
U can rationalise military built up madness all u want, and how it keeps ur countrymen employed, the fact remains that millions have died thanks to ur big guns.
Dont come crying when the next Blowback hits America heartland though!

Eff25 said...

"U called the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki a low class emotional swipe?"

No, using the example against me, as if I condone the specific act, solely on the basis of my preference for a poweful military and a reference to an American-centric view, is a low class emotional swipe.


"What do u think that big powerful sexy big guns are designed for?"

To kill and intimidate, they are also impressive in their power absent any loss of life.

"How much do they cost to develop?"

Probably too much.

"Have they ever being used?"

I have no idea. I would suppose the military doesn't use them willy nilly.

"and if yes by whom? u've seen any grainy black and white footage of the aftermath of such test?"

I'm pretty sure I have.

"Yep u do indeed have an American centric view on these matters as ur not on the receiving end of ur beloved big guns.Wondering what ur thoughts would be if one of this device was dropped on ur community."

I wouldn't like to be on the receiving in of any weapon, pain stinks.

"I've spent more than 4 years years in South East Asia and have visited Laos Cambodia Vietnam and Japan several times and witnessed the results of the american led wars."

I haven't praised America, I just want us to be powerful and well prepared.

"This is totally evil...500.000 died in Cambodia alone for no good reasons.( u wont even at war with them...it just happened that Kissinger and Nixon thought it was a good plan)."

I'm not sure where you're going with this. Is the criticism on arms build ups or foreign policy? If we were better behaved, would our nukes be more palatable to you?

"U can rationalise military built up madness all u want, and how it keeps ur countrymen employed, the fact remains that millions have died thanks to ur big guns."

Again, I am aware of this. I don't take pleasure in killing, but my view is that it cannot be precluded as a necessity.

"Dont come crying when the next Blowback hits America heartland though!"

I wouldn't, but vengeance begets vengeance, so it wouldn't make sense for you to cry to me if we retaliate to the blowback. Oh, and I am under no illusion that we are better than anyone else, but I don't we're well understood.

"7:18 PM"

Weetbix101 said...

U dunno if these weapons have ever being used? once more for the road....Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...who dropped these nukes? Wow that's the tough one!
The military uses weapons of mass destruction Cluster Bombs, Napalm (vietnam fallujah)and other cool gadgets "willy nilly"? are u for real? tell that to the millions who died in the last 50 years or so due to American agression worlwide.
U can't see a link between manufacturing weapons on such a scale and foreign policy? If that madness were to stop thousands of ur countrymen would be out of work.That's a good incentive for many....ask ur leaders and ceo's.
Dont be so arrogant about US military superiority, u've never been tested against powers like Russia and China in a full on war.With all ur big guns u never had a single military victory either apart from Grenada may be.
All ur efforts have been directed to the destruction of impoverished third world countries.(Somalia Vietnam Iraq etc).
Oh so ur misunderstood? lol
American denial of its war crimes ,its arrogance in imposing dictatorships in foreign countries in order to serve its own interests and the will to control energy ressources (ask Greenspan) are very clear to non US citizens.

Eff25 said...

"U dunno if these weapons have ever being used? once more for the road....Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...who dropped these nukes? Wow that's the tough one!"

Sorry, we'd already brought up the bombing of those cities, so I'd assumed they'd been covered. I likely was thinking of large weaponry in general. I don't keep track of when and where all large armament is used.

"The military uses weapons of mass destruction Cluster Bombs, Napalm (vietnam fallujah)and other cool gadgets "willy nilly"? are u for real? tell that to the millions who died in the last 50 years or so due to American agression worlwide."

I said I would assume it doesn't.

"U can't see a link between manufacturing weapons on such a scale and foreign policy? If that madness were to stop thousands of ur countrymen would be out of work.That's a good incentive for many....ask ur leaders and ceo's."

I don't recall saying there wasn't one. Is this about my view on military power and its use, or your view on the military industrial complex?

"Dont be so arrogant about US military superiority, u've never been tested against powers like Russia and China in a full on war.With all ur big guns u never had a single military victory either apart from Grenada may be.
All ur efforts have been directed to the destruction of impoverished third world countries.(Somalia Vietnam Iraq etc)."

What arrogance? No, really, what did I say that made you think I America is better than other countries? Apparently, saying we'll fight back, using your implied standard of "reaping what one sews," is only valid and justice if it's done in response to American aggression. That circular logic is arrogant.

"Oh so ur misunderstood? lol
American denial of its war crimes ,its arrogance in imposing dictatorships in foreign countries in order to serve its own interests and the will to control energy ressources (ask Greenspan) are very clear to non US citizens."

I was more referring to our culture, view on the world, philosophy, as it were.

I haven't praised America or denied its crimes, nor would I. But I also have no desire to trash my country. You have every right to say what you want, to cite all of the wrongs we've done, and I might agree with you in some cases, but I'm not going to hate my country, nor do I hate any other country, so your seeming attempt to goad me into being nothing but a denouncer, isn't going to succeed.

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