HOW THE WORM TURNS

Well dear Rattlers, a week in Paltalk is a long time. It will not be long before the word gets out that I have turned in my admin hat in Lord Voo's room. It is not a rumour. I did indeed tell Lord Voo that I would no longer admin for him after he showed no regard for the admins who were running his room, and even less regard for the chatters who visit his room, unless of course you were a known room disruptor guaranteed to generate some drama.

Lord Voo had, in the opinion of many, handcuffed his admins to deal effectively with the tsunami of racial attacks that seems to be incumbent with the election campaign currently underway in the USA. There was daily confusion among the admins and the chatters about what the rules were with regard to 'racial baiting', and racial slurs. One day when matters were way out of control, Lord Voo made his grand entrance and snatched the mic, he declared that there would be NO racial slurs or attacks in his room, period! Relieved to hear this I posted that into the room welcome. NO warning for racial slurs. And for 12 blissful hours this calmed the room down. But the next day I returned and every vile racial slur in the book was being plastered all over the room. I promptly started to red dot the offenders, other admins followed suit to make sure the offenders got the message it was not going to be tolerated.

The next day Lord Voo sent a IM to his admins advising of his rules, which had changed from NO racial slurs PERIOD, to warning offenders in text, if they do it again, take the mic and tell them at the mic to stop. If they still persist, red dot for 5 mins, if they still persist then bounce.

Are you with me here Rattlers? Can you imagine the pandemonium? While two admins in a room with 110 people, many of them out of control gremlins, tried to work within these parameters.

I lodged my protest to Lord Voo that this made his admins work much harder than I thought volunteer people may be willing to do, just to keep his numbers up. Lord Voo would not budge.

Then he appointed sillyfandango and bigmac_2008 as admins and left yours truly to deal with them with no real power to stop their destructive sortie.

Last night was another hellish experience, and no one's idea of fun, for the admins in Voo's room trying to bring some kind of order to the chaos.

lively_oak, a fine little chatter, if she restricts her intake of RED BULL to 20 cans a day, got into 'war' with Admin sophia_175, who was at her wits end with Lively's antics and room disruption. Lively tested Sophia's patience to the point where she bounced Lively for something I knew Voo would not support, and that was text scrolling in the room. Red dots are all we were allowed for text scrolling. Meanwhile the room is flying with msvlj703, and weetbix101 the two newest admins doing a fine job of writing the 'warning messages in text' for the numerous race baiting offenders and even more racial slurs. There were red dots all over the place for the offenders who did not heed the warnings in text. Speakers had to be asked to wait while Admins get the mic warning to offenders. What a bloody shambles. The known shit stirrers were screaming 'we'll tell Voo' My reply was they could tell the Pope, I didn't give a shit.

To assist the chatters and the admins, who needed to give the warnings and call time, I asked all of the admins to use red font, so we, and the chatters could see each other. This was working like a charm until AbettyHRH entered the room with red text. Abetty was respectfully asked to change her font, and told why we would like her to do so. Ms Abetty, a friend of Lord Voo's was adamant that she would keep her font red. This was of course picked up immediately by the known room disrupters, who all changed to red font. I asked Ms Abettt and all smart arses to give the admins a break and work with us. They were all adamant that they would do as they pleased. WorthyOfUrAttn, advised me that Ms Abetty was a friend of Voo's and an Attorney no less. I really didn't care if Abetty was a friend of the Pope and sat in the bench of the High Court, she had no jurisdiction in a room I was trying to run. Ms Abetty would not c0-operate, so I slapped a red dot on the arse of our learned friend and left it there. The other offenders in the room got the message and changed their font. Calm was restored enough for the chat to flow again.

Miss Lively was released from her bounce and came back the room with renewed vigor to continue the war with Sophia, and also push my patience to the limits. Ms Lively was given several cautions, a red dot and finally sent to bed, with no more RED BULL, until the morning.

Today was a brand new day! I had been for an early morning swim, read the newspapers, popped into this blog and had a great laugh at cLumpmeister's delightful posting. I went into Voo's room. Several Admins IM'd me that they were at their wits end with Lively Oak and wanted to bounce her. daniel_england_00 could take no more when Lively jumped in the mic calling the men "sons of cunts!" and reminding them they they all entered this world via a cunt! The word was repeated without benefit of any other words to make any sense of someone screaming "cunt cunt cunt" into the mic. Daniel red dotted Lively, and felt the need to apologize to me for doing so. I told him that he made a good call.

paleoconservative was next on the mic and he never had much of any real value to contribute. When I am not wearing a hat I put the little cretin onto ignore and divert my attention to something else when he speaks. Lively was next and for reasons only known to her she changed the topic to her belief that paleoconservative was a pedophile. IM's to me asking "do you really want this room to empty?" bombarded my screen.

Lively was stopped at the mic and told she could not call people 'pedophiles', it is a Terms of Service violation of Paltalk:

(b) transmitting any unlawful, threatening, abusive, profane, offensive, defamatory, or hateful text or voice communication or Images or other material, or any racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material,

Lively was given a 5 min time out. Paleo was next at the mic. He was asked to move along and get back to a political discussion. Before he could to so there was a room raid of mic jumpers, that had to be dealt with. As Paleo took the mic about a minute or so later, I saw that Lord Voo had removed Lively's red dot and her hand was back up. How smug she must have been feeling that she could run to Lord Voo and he would override an Admin's decision without any discussion with the Admin who dotted her. Now perhaps if Daniel England or one of the other Admins who may be intimidated by Lord Voo had dotted Lively, the situation may have ended there with the whole room observing that the Admins in the room had no real power. Lord Voo, who could take a page out of George Bush's manual for destruction of a nation vetoed my decision and became the 'Decider guy' even though he had not witnessed the events leading up to Lively getting dotted. Unfortunately, it was me who dotted Lively, and I have yet to meet the man who intimidates me. So I had some private words with Lord Voo, who should have left it there. But no, Lord Voo, ever the showman had to take the mic and ask Lively why she lied to him in IM about the dot. He did support my decision and told Lively that she would keep the dot on. Gee, thanks Lord Voo, we had that under control, and did not need you dropping what you were doing in Classicmfree's room, to berate the Admins and tell us how incompetent we all were and if we could not run the room without you, you would close it. To that I say, Lord Voo I have had more experience in senior managerial positions than you have had bloody birthdays! I am sure I can run a chat room without the need of supervision or interference.

Lord Voo and I took this to a private room where Lord Voo mistook me for someone who would listen to his rants. He was advised to cool it or the discussion was terminated and we were done. He allowed me to give him a full account of what had gone down in the past few days and how his silly restrictive rules for admins was making the job harder than it needed to be, or that I felt I or any of the other admins would tolerate for long. Well Lord Voo was not listening, all he heard was a woman telling him how to run his room. He started the rant again and going off onto tangents, bringing all kinds of extraneous bullshit into the discussion. At this time I had lost all respect for him and said, "well fuck you." Oh dear, this did cause him an affront. He was hurt that I would reduce the discussion to that level, after all, were we not adults? I said "yes we are adults and as an adult, I am telling you what I think of this bullshit" I apologized, but that fell on deaf ears. He kept ranting about me swearing at him, and how we should have a better level of communication than that. Yes well, Lord Voo, when I work with people and show them my unwavering loyalty, I don't expect to be told that if I don't like your rules I can "leave and take my friends with me." My choice is to leave, and whether or not my friends wish to continue to work so hard for you with NO APPRECIATION or consideration for how difficult your ineptitudes have made their job, that is up to them.

I returned to your room later in the day under another nic. There was no discussion of any substance. Lively was jumping around like a demented pixie telling people "we can say anything we like in here" The welcome message in the room asked chatters to keep 'race baiting to a minimum' With that kind of an opened ended MO I am glad I won't be having to deal with what some of the chatters might call a MINIMUM.

I wish to thank the excellent Admins I worked with in Mainstream Politics, notwithstanding the disastrous choice of appointing SillyFandango and BigMac. We all worked very hard to help Voo create a good room, but Voo does not want a GOOD room he wants a BIG ROOM, without doing any of the hard yards himself. He did not spend much time in his own room today, there was too much drama to be had in a mud slinging contest with his old adversary Bobby Boom Boom McGee in Classic's room to show his admins he appreciated their time by being a participant in his own room.

I hold no hard feelings for Lord Voo, and I will never join the backstabbing bastards who would tell lies about him. I stood by him over the closing of Debate Central because I trusted that he was doing the right thing. It is a great pity, and Lord Voo is the loser here, that he did not extend that trust to me.

This is a huge year for me, as I will be traveling back and forth to the Northern Territory to undertake a Degree in Community Services, Sport and Recreation, which will give me the skills I need to work in Aboriginal communities developing programs for youth health and welfare. I am looking forward to going back to 'country'. This is going to reduce the time I cam spend on Paltalk, which is going to send cheers of relief rumbling down Republican corridors. But I have made so many great mates on Paltalk and I won't be able to stay away completely. When time permits, and my co-admins are available, I will be opening my room The Hot Seat International Political Chat room. It is a room with a bit of a difference. We chat about a range of political issues and world affairs, play audios, stream videos, play music if it suits us and generally have a good time. My zero tolerance for racial attacks and room disruption guarantees that the room will never be a big drama filled room, that so many like to visit. But we like it, so come visit us in the HOT SEAT when you see the room open.

Thank you dear Rattlers it has been fun blogging with you but I must bid you a fond farewell and wish all peace and light.

THE MOB

Here's auntykate turning her, once mild-mannered, lemmings into a mob. This is after the coup, of course, when they had no place else to go. The caption reads "You're gonna make our Hag the top dog again or we'll finish the job."

AFTER THE COUP

Here's one of the lemmings sucking up to The Old Hag after she closed Voo's room down, forcing all of them to go into her room.

THE PHANTOM NEVER LIES!

I see everything, hear everything, and report it all accurately. Take that you old hag.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED

I normally can't be bothered with petty paltalk 'drama’ and gossip, but I am forced to spell out what happened and address some of the lies that have been told.


BACKGROUND

auntykate_1 has had personal issues with me for a long time, auntykate is also extremely passionate about racial matters. auntykate says repeatedly in the room that "if I see any racial slurs you will get no warning, you will be out." This kind of admining makes people feel very uncomfortable because it is entirely subject to auntykate’s extremely sensitive interpretation of what a 'racial slur' is. Also, giving NO warning and bouncing instead of dotting is very poor admining and will give the room a bad reputation.


THE EVENT ITSELF

The room was discussing Barack Obama and the effect of race on the democratic contest. I pointed out (among others) that race was a factor, with 86% of the black vote going to Obama as well as his wins in states with high percentages of black voters, this was a point about identification politics.

auntykate got on the mic and became very angry at me, and she bounced hillarypaul2008 from the room (this was accidental, she meant to bounce me, but I mention this to jog peoples' memory) Then auntykate bounced me. I came back in the room using the admin code, then auntykate bounced me again, I came back in, then she bounced me again, and again, and again...

Auntykate bounced me approximately 20 times (even though the room has a no bounce rule). When auntykate discovered that she could not bounce me, she became intensely frustrated and got on the mic and said she was leaving the room. After she was gone the room soon returned to normal conversation, and we were discussing why Republicans can't defend John McCain's domestic policies (I mention this to jog peoples' memory).

We continued talking for about 20 minutes and it was during this time that auntykate set up her own room, and I am told during this time she also tried to remove me from the admin list, but I cannot confirm this. About 20 minutes passed and auntykate came back in the room angrier than ever. She got on the mic in the middle of the political discussion and starting shouting, then she said on the mic, "the only way to solve this, is to do this!" and then the room was closed.

There was absolutely no need to close the room, the room was running fine and at least two other admins were present, including Jewel 41 and daniel_england_00, both of whom should confirm my version of events.


LIES

There have probably been many lies spread about what occurred by people who hate me or by allies of auntykate or by impostors, I am surely not aware of them all, so I will merely try to address those I am aware of. The following is a short list of lies that I am aware of.

LIE: that I sent an IM to auntykate calling her an "anti-american abo cunt" - auntykate has completely made this up.

LIE: that I tried to bounce auntykate - auntykate made this up entirely.

LIE: that I was "running amok" and aunty was forced to close the room to "save it."

LIES: aunty posts "I did NOT lose my cool and close the room. I left the room, and let Big Mac have at it hoping with me gone he may settle, I seem to get him over excited. When I realised this I opened my room. I was getting constant IM;s about the havoc Big Mac was creating. So I got my hat and went back to Voo's room. At the mic I asked BIG MAC to leave, and was told 'fuck off you Abo cunt" It was then that I closed the room." https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18027804&postID=9025335661667760483

Anyone who witnessed what happened knows that this account of events is laughable. The only person who was "over excited" was auntykate. Anyone who was in the room knew that I was not causing any "havoc" whatsoever, and in fact we had moved on to political topics and we were discussing why no Republicans ever defend John McCain's domestic policies. And I NEVER posted "fuck off you Abo cunt" in text, nor sent it in IM, nor said it in voice as anyone there witnessed. auntykate closed the room because she was intensely frustrated that she could not bounce me for no reason in her normal tyrannical way. There were other admins in the room at the time, and we were having good conversation, aunty never even announced that she was closing the room, she just did it.


IMPERSONATION

A chatter named a bigger mac_1 has been impersonating me and calling people names. This chatter is NOT me and I would advise banning this chatter from all rooms. In this way we might discover who it is.

Also, no posting on this blog is mine except under this name, do not attribute anonymous postings to me.


IN CONCLUSION

Anyone who witnessed what happened knows that my version of events is correct. Allies of auntykate or people who hate me may lie about what happened, but what I have posted is entirely accurate.

I would recommend removing the hat from auntykate, she is tyrannical and makes people feel uncomfortable in the room, the very least that should be done is only allowing her to be a regular admin, which will deny her the ability to close the room. auntykate says herself that she would "do it again." https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18027804&postID=9025335661667760483

As for myself, I only ever wanted a hat so that an abusive admin like auntykate could not just bounce me for no reason, and this proved useful in preventing auntykate from bouncing me on the day in question. The only problem was she became so frustrated by her inability to abuse her admin privileges that she just shut the whole room down in anger. auntykate SHOULD NOT have the ability to close a room.

TENT CITIES RAISE ALARMS OF LOSS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS’ LIBERTIES

A good friend of mine, Jacobin, came to "Mainstream Politics Returns With LordMercifulVoo" last night and shared a story about tent cities cropping up throughout the United States because of the mortgage foreclosure crisis. Under the guise of security, municipalities have been stepping on the rights of citizens.

I did a Google search and found several stories about this problem, however it was curious that there weren’t many stories from the mainstream media discussing the issue. One story is by Andrea Bennett from the Daily Bulletin, "Only homeless with Ontario ties may stay"

The Bennett story features one of the tent cities that is gaining notoriety in Ontario, California. That tent city was created about a year ago and has ballooned to about 400 people. The Municipality of Ontario’s action plan should cause some concern to Americans because it suggests that their plan should also be used as a template in other regions. The municipality is demanding that people prove that they are from the area of Ontario or they will be bussed to “their places of origin.” Is that a solution? Instead of providing much-needed services to people, like giving them access to affordable housing, job services or training and supports, they plan to mark them as undesirables who have no rights and relocate them. This is a band-aid and will merely transport the problem to another municipality. Is this an infringement of the right for movement within the nation of the USA? One resident of the Ontario tent city said in the Bennett story that he had previously been kicked out of other cities, so it appears that municipalities just “deport” “non-citizens.”

A highly contested part of the Municipality of Ontario plan is the placing of wristbands on the citizens who can prove they are from the area and get to stay there. Another controversial act is that they plan to fence the area in. Say what? It has been suggested by some critics that these are Hitler-style tactics. We need not even look to Nazi Germany to see where this has happened before. It is reminiscent of how Native Americans have been treated and placed on reservations. In Canada, Natives were forced on reserves and labeled as “status Indians.” They were given an enrollment card, or status card to identify them as Indians. The geographic space “reservation” marked as for Indians, was to separate them from the mainstream white spaces because Natives were seen as a threat to white society. There was a time when Natives were required to get a pass to leave the reservation. Such heavy-handed policing methods hadn’t been placed on citizens. These racist policies were outlined in the Indian Act which legislated all aspects of Native lives. The restriction of movement, the branding with a status card number and lack of citizenship and voting rights resulted in the oppression of a people because of racism and was managed through the Indian Act.

Back to Ontario….the way that tent cities such as this will be policed and regulated demonstrates that Americans have lost their civil liberties, similar to how Natives were denied citizenship rights. The Bennett article reported that there will be certain regulations written up and enforced that the tent city residents have to abide by. An example is that there will be no children or pets allowed.

Natives have long-warned Canadians and Americans that the oppression inflicted on us could happen to others as well. I now hear Americans complaining and acting shocked and hopeless about losing their liberties. These tent cities are classist, an assault levied on the poor who are a problem and therefore must be “managed” much the same as the “problem” of Natives and how we had to be “managed.” But we as Natives also understand that the mistreatment of us by the white settler governments was perfected in Europe before being imported to Turtle Island… What was justified through classism in Europe was replaced with racism here. History repeats itself over and over again. Now we see this kind of oppression coming full circle whereby whites are being targeted again.

This problem will become systemic in the USA. It isn’t only Ontario California that is experiencing this problem, I have found a site that lists several other tent cities.

With economic experts predicting that even more mortgage foreclosures are to come over the next year, this crisis will grow. Question to Americans, how does it feel to be treated like a Native American and what are you going to do about it?

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE LOVE? :o(

Like any guy, I enjoy a good old-fashioned catfight...but isn't it time for Kate n' Carmen to bury their rolling-pins and kiss and make up? Not only would this be arousing but it would demonstrate how peaceful a matriarchal world could be for all. Of course they would have to disavow their mutual devotion to Obama and get back on that Hillary-bandwagon to really drive the point home...but such a small price in the name of Paltalk harmony and global peace.

Call me a peacenik, call me a male feminist...I just think it's high-time for a more lady-like behavior amongst the Paltalk womenfolk.

THE OLD AND THE HAPLESS

It was an exciting night in Mainstream where a disagreement between admins turned into a bounce party. It seems the LordMercifulVoo took pity on bigmac_2008 and gave him a hat. But it was no ordinary hat. He made the hapless burger boy a super admin. Until then, auntykate_1 believed that she, alone, was in charge. But when she lost her cool and tried to bounce the fried hamburger patty she found that she was no longer the alpha dog, the head honcho, the boss, but merely an old hag. She must've bounced him a dozen times but he only kept coming back. She tried to remove him from the admin list and found she couldn't. That so infuriated the old hag that her breasts fell out of her Cross-Your-Knees wonder bra and, as the night turned to day, she closed the room down and moved her lemmings into another.

They were hesitant to follow her at first, fearing they would bring the wrath of the Lord Voo upon them. But auntykate_1 reminded them that the Lord was merciful. She further explained that the sudden exodus was only for the good of the room -- to "protect it's integrity." Why she was only following Voo's lead, she argued. "I've done exactly tonight what Voo did with Dommie's room. He closed it down ... to stop the room being destroyed ... and I've done the same with Voo's tonight. So I would think that Voo would understand that."

What's that you say? Whatever goes around comes around? Damn skippy.

FLASH!

Reports are coming in from various correspondents that sillyfandango, well known for her voracious consumption of hillbilly heroin and Jim Beam, has taken to flashing her boobs on cam in Mainstream. We were lucky enough to get a still image of this momentous event:

That is one fine looking simian.

JC

TOMMYJOHNSON44, SWIIIIIIIIIIIIING AND A MISS!!!

tommyjohnson44 idolizes John McCain. The level of his mancrush is almost embarrassing. Which led tommy to insist plaintively in text:

tommyjohnson44: mcccain is against torture

Well, tommy must have missed the latest memo, because his lover just voted AGAINST a ban on waterboarding:

You can go back just a few months to when then presidential contender Rudolph Giuliani seemed to equivocate before a forum of potential voters in Iowa on whether waterboarding is, in fact, torture.

“It depends on how it’s done,” Giuliani said. “It depends on the circumstances. It depends on who does it.”

McCain pounced on his friend and former opponent for the Republican nomination. As someone who spent five years as a prisoner of war in a North Vietnamese prison camp where he said he was the subject of beatings and harsh interrogations, McCain has long spoke passionately on the issue.

“All I can say is that it was used in the Spanish Inquisition, it was used in Pol Pot’s genocide in Cambodia, and there are reports that it is being used against Buddhist monks today,” McCain said in interview with the New York Times in response to Giuliani comments. “They should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.”

But on Wednesday, when the Senate voted on the intelligence bill, which includes a provision that effectively bans waterboarding from being used as an interrogation technique by all 16 intelligence agencies, McCain voted against the bill.

So sorry, tommy, to burst your tiny delusional bubble, but your steely-eyed man of principle is a wishy-washy flip-flopper, who, having survived torture himself, now votes AGAINST banning a form of torture that dates back to the Spanish Freakin' Inquisition, a form of torture WE prosecuted a Japanese officer for using in WWII.

Frankly, tommy, I am disgusted with John McCain. So the next time you roll over next to him in bed, you tell him from me, "You're a scumbag."

JC

DO NOT FEED THE CUTE, FURRY CREATURES AFTER MIDNIGHT

If you see this woman who goes by the name of sillyfandango, don't let that sweet southern drawl fool you. This woman is dangerous and has a particular dislike of Moooslims.

Will the regular chatters in Mainstream Politics ever forget the shock of hearing the newest Admin in the room, sillyfandango, screaming into the mic "torture is ok!" and, "any Iraqi who kills an American soldier deserves to be dragged onto the street with his whole family and cut to pieces" What the fuck do they put into that Moonshine south of the Mason-Dixon?

It took every ounce of self control I could muster to let this lunatic finish her rant, which broke every Paltalk Term of Service in the space of the 7 minutes she hogged the mic, leaving people in the room pole-axed with disbelief. Buddy was next to take the mic and I was about to send an IM to that crazy bitch, when she strung at the mic again, knocking a 6'4" ex USMC on his arse. sillyfandango, who would be better named Miss Abu Ghraib 2008, was not done with listing the people she wanted to see DIEEEE! and the gory ways in which she would be happy to extract the entails.

It would appear that a short time before midnight, some fool fed this 'thing' which turned from a sweet southern belle who briefly entertained us, and particularly impressed Buddy Romance with a fine set of vocal cords, into a flesh eating creature, dripping with blood and saliva after a fresh kill. I was powerless to bounce this menace from the room, but demonstrated that her views were not supported by engaging in a pie throwing contest, using red dots. Not wanting to continue the floor show which was egged on by WorthyofUrAttn, a regular chatter to the room and all the bottom feeders who love to hate Voo, but still come to his room, I left.

The only way to stop this nut case short of shooting her was to close the room, which Pepsiman_CR did. One could not have put enough money on a bet that some scumbag was trying to get a RED Admin, who would have shut down the room. Well done Worthyof , thank you for being loyal to the room and to Voo, I won't forget your kindness and with buddies like you Voo will never need enemas.

I tell you dear Rattlers, having spent sometime in the Aussie outback I don't have a weak constitution, but I was more than a little pleased to have 17 K of deep blue ocean between myself and this visitor from another galaxy. And to think you guys fret over a few million illegal Mexicans!

Voo was placed into the stocks by the room regulars and pelted with rotten fruit. He took his beating like a man for having thought that the room would need the kind of drama this lunatic could provide. We already have Miss Worthy, of no one's attention. Who on her good days, when PMS, or that ache in her 'nether regions' has been dealt with and she appears to act less like a bitch in heat and more like a human being, she can even make the odd contribution to the chat.

As for the numerous 'ANONYMOUS' comments we see around the place,s don't you get it? People are not interested in what cowards have to say. One thing that can never be said of Lord Voo, or myself we are not cowards , if we have something to say we say it to your face.

OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE...

Ordinarily I don't visit the blogs concerning Paltalk, but I have made this week an exception to the rule to set the record straight on the plethora of misinformation and lies concerning the destruction of the room formerly known as Mainstream Politics in Debate Central.

It came to my attention that S_LINK90 was posting a link to a blog in his room, which he strongly denies is his work, that gave an 'anonymous' account of the events leading up to LordMercifulVoo finally listening to the nagging of his friends to reopen his room and not allow a couple of morons to ride on the coattails of his popularity any longer.

As I read the blog titled 'The Best Drama on Paltalk' I found myself roaring with laughter at the baldfaced lies, with holes in the story big enough to drive a MACK truck through. Talk about E&O's (errors and omissions). The blog ought to have commenced with "Once upon a time..." It was a poorly written work of fiction. The blogger had also left out some very important pieces of information. In particular an audio in Voo's possession of a discussion he had with Slink shortly before the collapse of the old Debate Central, where he was plotting a 'coup' against DommieGoddess "the psychotic ugly fat bitch" to paraphrase one of Slink's more kind remarks. The blogger also failed to appreciate that even the most mentally challenged among us can see through bullshit.

The Rattler asked for comments from Paltalk chatters who have the low down on this latest drama, that has almost seen Slink have a cerebral hemorrhage trying unsuccessfully convince intelligent people that he is the 'good guy.' Too many are very well acquainted with the MO of this little cockroach.

To make this story come together it needs to be explained that a few weeks before Der Crystal Nacht that resulted in the destruction of the old Debate Central, Lord Voo had handed his admin hat in to Dommie in protest of the way the room was operating.

Anyone who is acquainted with Lord Voo on Paltalk will know that as chatters go he is a legend. His style is too flamboyant for the faint hearted, and his vitriolic abuse leaves adversaries cringing in the corner. But love him or hate him, Lord Voo is an advocate for justice, both on and off paltalk.

The Admins in Debate Central had been dubbed NAZI's and any decent chatters were gathering in mylady_arwen_1's room, where for the most part the admins have at least double digit IQ's and Arwen does not give Admins latitude to bounce chatters on a whim. Some do, of course, but Arwen does not condone it. Debate Central's better admins were left wondering why they subjected themselves to the daily torture of associating with people who needed the difference between a racial slur and a swipe at a religion explained everyday.

Now that Voo was no longer wearing a hat in Debate Central the power drunk NAZI admins felt even more in command. One evening Voo challenged a decision from LittleBitNotALot, and we shall leave the reader to ponder where her deficiencies are. Little adopted an attitude with Lord Voo that said "if you don't like it, fuck off" Voo didn't like it, but he has never been one to retire from a conflict. He unleashed a Voo style address to Little's abuse of power, and was bounced from the room.

Great peals of laughter filled the text window from people who don't mind injustice being meted out. It seems to be a Republican party torture and 'waterboarding is ok' kind of thing. There were but a handful of people with the intestinal fortitude to speak out against Little's abuse of her admin power, and they we all bounced from the room for doing so.

Voo IM'd his 'mate' Slink to get the code to return to the room for the purpose of addressing LittleBitNotALot (of gray matter) more firmly. Slink, refused to play ball and would not give Voo the code. He couldn't be having Voo verbally beat up on his cyber squeeze, especially as they had not 'gone private' yet that evening. Voo called Dommie at home and she gave him the code. Voo returned to the room. Little may have needed a thick fluffy towel to clean up the mess after Voo spoke his mind, and it is doubtful if Slink got his jollies that night!

Not only did Voo rip into Little for what she did to him, but also for how they were running the room in general. The NAZI style of admining was keeping good chatters from going to the room. Every day the line up for the microphone was reduced to people who could hardly string a coherent sentence together. It was noted that while Voo was giving Little some correction none of the other Admins came to her (Little's) aid. Not even Slink or abby_1312. With mates like that, hey? The next day the plot thickened and for those who like a little juicy fact with their gossip it goes like this.

It was a dark and stormy night...when Slink and his gang of backstabbing conspirators, which included Abby, Dommie's best mate, an Aussie Sheila who fits a quaint OZ expression 'dumber than bat shit' decided that had had enough of that upstart LordMercifulVoo. They reopened 2Way Street, the writer went into the room and received an IM from Lord Voo that he had been banned. Slink and the writer went into a private room for Slink to explain why Lord Voo had been banned.

Slink put forward all kinds of reasons why Voo was banned and none of it made sense in real terms, except that Slink was totally pissed off that Voo came back into the room with a hat and slammed Little. During this conversation Slink was querying how Voo got his hat back, as he had not given him the code. I knew that Voo had called Dommie and she gave him the code because he told me he had done so. Slink was advised of this. Now he was really pissed off. Dommie had, in his mind, betrayed him and the other admins by giving Voo the code, and then taking her phone off the hook so he couldn't contact her. But dear chatters he (Slink) did not know this fact until after he had reopened 2Way Street, with the purpose of destroying Dommie's room. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we...you know the rest.

Slink told me that I was welcome in his room anytime, I thanked him and said, "No I won't be supporting your room, I stand by my mates. " A concept I am not sure this homegrown Repuke understands. It is also an Aussie thing, a code of honor most Aussies, even dumb old Alfie would appreciate.

So what we had was a real dilemma. Debate Central was open but meritman was the only admin. Slink had taken all of Dommie's other admins with him. As anyone who has ever run a room would know it takes some planning, or in this case plotting, to have an admin team ready to go when a room opens.

For some reason Slink didn't want meritman, too smart would be my guess. Dommie and tucherb were nowhere to be found. One can only guess what shenanigans they might have been up to. So the room known as Debate Central was left floundering with ONE admin and in danger of total collapse unless meritman could and would put in an unknown number or hours on his own. Neither meritman or Voo could appoint admins so Voo jumped in and offered a solution. He said that he would reopen his room (Mainstream Politics Resurgence) and everyone could migrate over there until the problem could be worked out. meritman closed Debate Central and we all moved to Mainstream Politics, which went to #1 for a week and held that position by a country mile ahead of ALL the other rooms.

A week passed and still no sign of Dommie or Tuch, isn't love grand? Then late one evening, after Voo had gone to bed, Dommie appeared with an announcement about how she was glad the room (Debate Central) had closed because the needed a break, her health had not been good. Then she gave the BTW, "I didnt give Voo the code to my room he already had it" Now that WAS another Pork Pie (lie) right there, which Dommie was forced to admit in front of Tuch this week. To use an expression from a very funny Aussie comedienne Miss Effie, "How embarrassment!"

Dommie must have been feeling gutted by what her 'friends' Slink, Abby and Little had done. Voo who is more heart than bluster took pity on her. He offered to give Dommie a hat in his room, but Dommie refused, she needed to be the Diva. So Voo agreed to MERGE the rooms. The writer was an admin in Mainstream Politics and was not at all happy about taking a hat in the new room. It was felt that Dommie could not run a bloody pie shop, and with two failed rooms behind her it was a reasonable conclusion. Tuch had always seemed reasonable but getting close to a seat of power, a chatroom SuperAdmin sent a rush of blood to his head.

The writer lodged a protest that day but agreed to take a hat out of loyalty to Lord Voo, as he had done a very noble thing to help a friend, when his busy schedule did not really allow for it. Tuch did NOT like the fact that the writer took a hat with some trepidation, and had made no bones about it. It made him nervous. He wanted his DommieGoddess and himself to be the 'stars' of the show, not Lord Voo. Or was there some other hidden motive? The writer suspected there was and said as much to Lord Voo. However, Voo's friendship with Dommie was solid and he wanted to show her that he had not reopened Mainstream Politics to destroy her room.

A couple of weeks passed and with new and better admins the room was regaining strength and fending off the damage done by the treachery of Slink and his cohorts. Then the writer learned that they (Tuch and Dommie) had taken the admin hats from tung fu and Lord Voo. The reason for taking Tung Fu’s hat was that he also admined in Slink’s room. And for Voo no reason was offered, not even to him. The writer was very hostile that this had happened to tung fu, who was an excellent admin. It was suggested to Tuch that he give Tung his hat back or take the writers. Tung was reinstated. This left Voo without a hat, which was rather extraordinary after all Voo had agreed to lend the name of his VERY successful room, Mainstream Politics. It seemed rather idiotic that Voo no longer had a hat in a room which had been his.

Could Tuch have been rolling too many of those funny cigarettes to think it would fly? The writer was indeed vocal about this in private with Tuch. Tuch sat in wait for the writer to put a foot wrong. An opportunity came for him to apply the red dot, claiming that I used a racial slur. Here we have living proof chatters that dope does kill brain cells! The poor darling does not KNOW that Muslims are NOT a race. Anyone who knows me knows that I detest bigots, and used the term 'rag head' to highlight a chatter's hatred for Muslims. Tuch and I exchanged words privately and I do recall calling him a total moron, who does not have the brains to run a toy choo-choo train on a small and repetitive track. He was told in no vague terms what the writer thought about the underhanded way they had treated Voo. It concluded with the writer suggesting that he (Tuch) stick the admin hat in a warm dark tight place. (I just don't work well with fools) The writer was banned from the room immediately. My goodness, they could not risk having the beans spilled about what they had done to Voo. The story that Tuch likes to tell is that HE took the writer's hat and it is a blatant lie.

Now the plot thickens. Tuch told Voo (and I heard the audio of the chat) that he took his (Voo's) hat and banned him because Voo protested the stupidity of the writer being banned. For mercy's sake, Tuch could write an episode for Desperate Housewives if we could sober him up enough, or reduce his intake of the mighty weed. Dear chatters, that was just another lie in the litany of pork pies (lies) being peddled about this silly business. Voo's hat had already been taken by Tuch, before I resigned as an admin, if you recall this was the reason I resigned. So dear Paltalk chatters, those who give a damn, there it is.

The blog The Best Drama on Paltalk needs to be renamed the Most Useless Bullshit on Paltalk. Have any of the Rattler regulars bothered to read the posts to the blog after my expose of the facts? Slink is squealing 'liar liar pants on fire' but ran from a private chat today like a bat out of hell, when Voo challenged him in the presence of Dommie and some of the other principal players in this cyber-soap opera.

It is was a great day for all Paltalk chatters when Lord Voo reopened his room this week. It is good to be back in a free-flowing room that does not continually have a line-up of hands that reads like the cast of characters from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

Aunty Kate.

QUICK APOLOGY

Hi guys, I just wanted to make a quick apology. I must have inadvertently turned Comment Moderation on, which left a bunch of comments in a queue to be approved by me. Since I don't have any intention of censoring comments (within reason), that was a mistake on my part. All comments in the queue are now published, and there should be no further problem posting comments without restriction. We apologize for any inconvenience, and please remember, The Central Computer loves you and only wants what is best for you. We do what we must because we can.

JC

WOMEN MAKE SHITTY ADMINS

Anyone with any sense would NEVER give a woman on paltalk a hat. All my problems with paltalk admins have been caused by women except one (I'll come to the exception in a minute).
Most of the women on here are not here for political chat, they are here for social reasons, most of them haven't got a clue about politics, and they don't care about political debate, they are here to gossip, socialize, look for a man and to be an 'admin' or'owner'. DommieGoddess is a classic example! What the fuck does DOMMIE know about politics? NOTHING. She was ONLY on here so she could be an 'owner' and have idiots suck up to her, and she could hand out favors and hats to her favorite suck ups. abby _1312 and LittleBitNotAlot are exactly the same way, they never even TALK about politics, they simply look for excuses to dot and bounce people, and I am usually on the target list. They HAVE to dot and bounce people because that is ALL they are here for, they don't care about the debate. auntykate_1 is another tyrannical admin dotting people left and right and bouncing for no good reason.

There is no reason to bounce anyone ever, but they do it on a whim, excluding that person from the room for whole 24 hours, which is insane. Carmen_ bounced me with no warning whatsoever for typing the word "snigger", thats what happens when you give a dumb cunt like carmen with no vocabulary a hat. I can not think of a SINGLE decent female admin, they all suck. calliekittyinator_3 has bounced me nothing, so has leilani_helepololei2003, so has Shooterz. ALL FEMALE ADMINS ARE SHIT. However I have also had a problem with tucherb who is a fucking retard admin. He is totally overzealous and will dot and bounce for next to nothing, I think he is probably mentally fucked up.

The BEST ADMIN on the whole of paltalk (apart from me) is S_LINK90, but the problem with slink is, he hands out hats to complete retards, like 'Thatguy', abby_1312 and Littlebit, which is absolutely idiotic, and they are ruining his room. He should give a hat to ME. I am the best admin ever, as anyone who used to come in my old room will testify. Let me emphasize that I do not want a hat to be an 'admin' I only want a hat so that I cant be fucked with by other retarded admins. But people don't want to give me a hat because they don't 'like' me. Needless to say I am not on paltalk to be liked, half the fun of paltalk is to be able to say what you really think, if I wanted to be 'liked' there would be no point in coming on. This is why women get hats, because their GOAL is to be 'liked' and get a hat, they don't give a fuck about the content of the conversations. Nevertheless it still mystifies me why the biggest retards get hats!? Anyway, THANK FUCK the tyranny of DommieGoddess is over and LordMercifulVoo is running things, but he did make a big mistake giving auntyhate a hat.

ONLY THE FACTS

Isn't it wonderful all the new blogs being opened over paltalk social issues drama? I've been reading (if you can call it that) the newest blog The Best of Paltalk Drama and I want to clarify some so-called facts mentioned there and other places. This all started a couple of weeks ago when LordMercifulVoo was taking on tommyjohnson44 (now you want to talk about an idiot?) and LittleBitNotAlot decided she had to protect little tommyboy since tommy is such a wuss. LittleBitNotAlot, of course coming in at half-time, thought she had every right to attack a chatter who dared go after her true love, tommyjohnson44. LordMercifulVoo told LittleBitNotAlot to stay out of it & of course with her power-tripping heavy hand she decided to let LordMercifulVoo know who was boss. When he simply defended his rights as a chatter, LittleBitNotAlot threatened LordMercifulVoo with a bounce. He let her know that she could lose her hat as quickly as the next person. She couldn't stand being told that, so she bounced LordMercifulVoo. Unknown to LittleBitNotAlot, LordMercifulVoo still retained his hat in Debate Central and he returned with a hat on (good for him).

When LordMercifulVoo returned to the room, for about one minute he went off on LittleBitNotAlot saying to her things most admins of Debate Central had been wanting to say to her for months. LordMercifulVoo then continued on with the discussion going on in the room. "How dare he," is what abby_1312 must have been thinking and in her great wisdom that belongs to all insane people, abby_1312 decided to step in; never mind that she had only been in the room for 3 minutes. LordMercifulVoo told abby_1312 to mind her own business (in his own nice way). Next thing you know LittleBitNotAlot was telling everyone LordMercifulVoo threatened her. Now I was in the room along with 87 other chatters and not one of us saw him threaten LittleBitNotAlot, unless puncturing her ego is now considered a threat.

LittleBitNotAlot, as reported by S_LINK90, called him with tears in her voice whining that LordMercifulVoo was mean to her (talk about needing thicker skin). At first S_LINK90 did the right thing and told her he wasn't going to get involved as he had no clue what had happened. Now mind you, I said at first S_LINK90 did the right thing, but S_LINK90, always the sneaky asshole, saw an opportunity for him to reopen his room and actually have more than 10 chatters. 2Way, as a side note, used to be DommieGoddess's room. S_LINK90 started rumors galore, which of course the dumbasses added onto as the rumors spread throughout paltalk, with hope that those that did know the facts (and had saved room text) would stay quiet.

Meanwhile abby_1312 was stabbing her best friend Dommie in the back along with 5 other so-called admin friends of Dommie's. LordMercifulVoo, being a gentleman and not liking Dommie getting attacked, shared all the bullshit that S_LINK90, LittleBitNotAlot, lola4_1 and abby_1312 have been saying about Dommie behind her back, heres the audio for that. Seems S_LINK90 was telling everyone that Dommie had a crush on him, as Dommie and tucherb were secretly dating. S_LINK90 called Dommie a pychopathic fat cow, lola4_1 was telling so-called secrets that Dommie told her to S_LINK90, and abby_1312, pissed off at some of the admins Dommie choose to have, also fed the fire. LittleBitNotAlot refused to tell the truth about how she adminned the room when Dommie was gone or how it was her, not LordMercifulVoo, that made the threats. This all was great news for S_LINK90, as he was now seeing room numbers beyond 10 and who could blame him? S_LINK90 was now a somebody, if only on paltalk, unlike in real life.

This tale does continue, like why LordMercifulVoo was banned from Mainstream Politics in Debate Central after he had Dommie's back, how and if auntykate_1 lost her hat or turned it in, why Debate Central is now the smallest room in social issues, not to mention the room text of that historic day paltalk social issues had a melt-down, but before I leave here's a teaser of whats to come,

Mitsuk: YAYYYYYYYYYY VOO HAS HIS HAT BACK ON!!!!!!!!!!

Mitsuk: I LOVE ITTTTTTTTTTTTT

auntykate_1: Yes, I saw that Mits

LordMercifulVoo on mic: "Little don't think you can't lose your hat."

LittleBitNotAlot: i dont take threats

LordMercifulVoo on mic: "I'm not threatening you, how am I threatening you?"

abby_1312: you are doing that now Voo

Mitsuk: no he has a right to speak his mind

Mitsuk: he was fucking bounced

Mitsuk: he will talk dammit

abby_1312: keep it up voo

Sword of the Amish: who was bounced?

Mitsuk: SWORD, THEY BOUNCED VOO THE FUCKERS

Amon1937: PLZ DONT GET KICKED AGAIN DUDE WE NEED YOU

auntykate_1: Voo but you did deserve the right of reply

Mitsuk: HE CERTAINLY DID KATE

And this isn't even the juicy stuff, the facts of why LordMercifulVoo was banned. (hint - S_LINK90 knows why: he started them) To be continued....

The Pratttler

IT MUST BE THE HILLBILLY HEROIN

I'm not sure if any of us know what Voo was thinking when he gave a hat to sillyfandango. Let me tell you what just happened in the new Mainstream Politics.

peacelover was on the mic, talking as he usually does about the illegal and immoral Iraq war, about the 1.2 million Iraqi deaths, about the atrociously high suicide rate of our returning soldiers, and about the torture being committed in our name. At that moment at least 2 hands were up, including Buddy_Romance's, another admin. Without warning, sillyfandango jumped the mic line, and proceeded to blast peacelover. auntykate_1 was also in the room as an admin, and she dotted sillyfandango, to try and return the lijne to some sense of normalcy. That is when the furious dotting war between silly and kate began.

Kate got disgusted and left the room, but both leilani_helepololei2003 and calliekittyinator_3 were so incensed that they began excoriating silly, and threatening to speak with Voo about her awful behavior. Quick as you please, both leilani and callie were being bounced. Other admins of course let them back in, but sillyfandango bounced them at least a few more times.

On top of all this, sillyfandango was advocating torture and escalation in Iraq, continually jumping the mic line, blathering away in her deep-south hillbilly accent. Then, all of a sudden, the room closes. Like a curtain coming down on a gory drama.

At this moment, Voo is being told by auntykate_1 and others exactly what happened with this lunatic. I think everything is gonna be ok...

Wait, I spoke too soon. silly was just back in the room as vegetarian fascist, defending herself to Voo and the room, when auntykate_1 bounced her. Voo is a little annoyed at not being able to hear silly's side of the story, but he admits he was wrong to trust sillyfandango with a hat. Now silly can go back to sucking down the smoked oxycontin in her trailer.

JC

VOOTUBE

I have heard these tapes have already had wide circulation, but here they are for your listening pleasure if you haven't heard.





Now these involve a love triangle, but not between Voo and Link, you sick monkeys!

JC

WAR HERO IS AN OXYMORON

This is the kind of thing John McCain did when he was a TOP GUN 'fly-boy' soaring safely and trouble-free high above the people and babies he bombed and napalmed on the ground--until they got a hold of HIS ass.

Just like McCain did in Vietnam, these 'war heroes' are killing people--NOT for "democracy" or "freedom" (don't make me laugh, McCain)--but for money, greed, and power.

Aren't you proud ?

BIGMACS AND COW PATTIES

After searching for hours for John Hume’s purported statements about Hillary Clinton’s role in the Good Friday Agreement I had to give up. No matter how hard I tried I could find nothing outside of a few blogs and news articles that merely alluded to his assertions. Some of them included portions of his statement but none provided a link or even a mention of the original source. Then I googled “John Hume” and got this and this, an article in one of the Irish papers that discusses “a statement in his [Mr. Hume’s] name” that “was put on Mrs. Clinton’s official website.” Well, now, that explains why bigmac_2008 failed to include a link in his comments about my last entry. No self‑respecting fried meat patty would want to be known as a spin master – leave that to the cotton candy aficionados, ay?

One has to wonder how Mr. Hume’s comments, which I suspect were made over the telephone, were solicited. Did Hillary’s aides offer cheese with the whine or did they just resort to playing the victim’s role? It most probably was a combination of the two, and I can just imagine how the conversation went: “You’ve got to help us Mr. Hume. That terrorist Muslim – Barrack HUSSEIN Obama – is saying that Hillary didn’t support the Good Friday Agreement. Yes, he’s related to Saddam. And he’s black, you know.” To which the distressed Mr. Hume replied, “Now, now girls. You mustn’t let this get you down. Why everybody knows Mrs. Clinton ‘visited Northern Ireland, met with very many people and gave very decisive support to the peace process.’”

Well here’s some news for you, bigmac: Cheerleaders give very decisive support to their home teams. That doesn’t make them quarterbacks. And let’s not lose sight of the real issue here – Hillary Clinton’s claim that she played a key role in bringing the warring factions together for peace talks. She has gone so far as to mention a meeting she supposedly “pulled together” at the Belfast town hall for the purpose of getting them to talk to each other for “the very first time.” And that, my friend, is just another cow patty.

NEW LAYOUT

Hi guys, I got tired of the white text on black, and I have heard it is somewhat tough on the eyes, so I switched to a new template. Let me know in comments what you think. It's also very easy to add new page elements to the sidebar, so let me know if there's anything you'd like to see there.

JC

SCHISM!

Well, it appears that there has been a messy divorce in Social Issues. Mainstream Politics has packed his bags and left Debate Central with an empty apartment and unpaid utility bills.

I know some of the story, but I'm sure that many of you have your own piece of the puzzle or idle speculation or a scurrilous rumor or two, so weigh in in the comments and let us know what happened to cause this schism.

JC

THE TOPIC FROM HELL

It's hard to watch yet another room falling victim to the trap of discussing the Israel-Palestine conflict ad nauseam. As posted in MPIDC on Saturday, I have seen this topic literally eliminate what were otherwise diverse and enjoyable chatrooms, to my frequent dismay. And the desensitization that occurs with repetition of this jaded topic is not unlike experiencing Bill Murray's struggles in the movie Groundhog Day.

The principal antagonists in this never ending tirade are as predictable as pie. The same stories recur over and over again and not-so-subtle rhetoric smears the screen. Moses and Balfour are tossed about as if they were legitimate operatives in the present moment. But never is there any sign of negotiation or compromise. Instead, we become infected by the raw emotionalism of both sides of this absurd dispute. The compulsion to take sides usurps the limbic systems of the onlookers and the conflict is perpetuated, both on paltalk and in that real world.

The inescapable fact is that Israel happened. Its creation was comprehensible to the post WW2 global mindset in that there were large numbers of displaced Jews and massive collective guilt concerning their fate under Hitler and several other tyrants. Two generations later that comprehension is disregarded and the sickness of legacy-grudges is abusively passed to the children of both sides. Indeed, hate and victimhood are among the easiest emotions to access and have become the cherished refuges of the two opponents. Is it any wonder that either side is capable of inconceivable atrocities?

The solution is obvious: the establishment of two distinct states, the mutual rejection of militancy, and the creation of an actual and viable Palestinian economy. With 75% unemployment it is evident many Palestinians have little else to think about other than exacting revenge rather than generating any sense of the future and the collective will to improve their status. Similarly, Israel must re-examine its dranconian approach. Building provocative settlements and tearing down olive groves on disputed lands is just gasoline on a bonfire and reveals a micro-imperialistic desire to further humiliate the Palestinians. And clearly new and rational leadership is essential for both parties; that is, if a solution is actually desired. Unfortunately, it is increasingly apparent that sandbox-emotions and egocentric self-portrayals of martyrdom will prevail.

I gave up on this topic a long time ago. Talking sense to the obsessed is a waste of time I've discovered. But it bugs me no end that another decent chatroom may be wrecked at the hands of a small, irreconcilable, and repetitive group of combatants who seldom look beyond a microscopic strip of desert.


p.s. Having just loaded Paltalk before posting this (which i actually wrote yesterday) I notice the aforesaid room is no longer with us, at least for today. I won't claim to be Nostradamus, but the topic from hell may have played a part.

ANOTHER WHOPPER - OR MAYBE JUST A BIGMAC

It seems that Hillary Clinton has been claiming at least partial responsibility for the peace pact in Northern Ireland, a claim that Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey described as “a wee bit silly.” He doesn’t seem to remember Hillary playing any role in the lengthy negotiations that led to the Good Friday Agreement. But, apparently, Hillary has vivid memories of her efforts to bring the warring parties together for peace talks. She has even given a detailed account of a meeting she supposedly arranged between Protestants and Catholics at the town hall in Belfast – one that there is no record of, and no one else can remember.

The only “meeting” David Trimble recalls is a dinner party Hillary attended with the women of Belfast. They know she was there because she posed for a picture in front of a table that held the stainless steel teapot she liked so well. Funny that the former First Lady’s recollections of an historic peace treaty differ so drastically from those of the negotiating parties. But Hillary is said to be an unusually intelligent woman. That may explain why she remembers so much more about those tumultuous years than the others do. Then again it causes one to wonder why she cannot remember directing someone in her campaign to alleviate Canada’s concerns about her current stance on NAFTA – a reminder that her claims of foreign policy experience should be taken with a grain of salt. And, if you frequent Debate Central, you're undoubtedly wondering how her blind and faithful follower, bigmac_2008, will try to wiggle out of this one.

DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT GEOGRAPHY

Some Republicans clearly were not paying attention in 5th grade Geography. Maybe McCainVSHussein was too busy fantasizing about an after school rendezvous with Sister Mary Pete. Notice how his mind cannot quite differentiate states from cities.

McCainVSHussein: HOW MANY BLUE STATES DID OBAMA WIN...2 OR 3 LOLOLOLO
McCainVSHussein: obama supporters how many blue state did he win
McCainVSHussein: McCain won 13 red states
McCainVSHussein: how many blue states obama won
naldrvr: McCain 11
McCainVSHussein: nald name them
lanny383: i can never remember who is red and who is blue?
McCainVSHussein: please
naldrvr: McCain you go look them up I'm not your mom
vagrrik: lol mccain your still on your colors lol
McCainVSHussein: I have only see n 3 chicago, washington and maine
Jesus Claus: chicago is a state?
McCainVSHussein: illinois fool
Jesus Claus: chicago, he says
McCainVSHussein: don't be stupid
McCainVSHussein: and childish
Jesus Claus: that's going up on the rattler
McCainVSHussein: I ony see Illinois, Maine and Chicago
McCainVSHussein: McCain won 13 redstaes
Jesus Claus: you said chicago again!
McCainVSHussein: oops
Jesus Claus: definitely posting that to the blog

I think maybe Mc got hit in the head with the Tetherball a few too many times at recess, which might explain the slight indentation in the side of his head. And the mental difficulties.

JC

IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED

Well, I had thought that kingkong62 was an educable conservative, one who might one day learn to feed himself without needing a bib, but I was sadly mistaken. Here is what he just said on mic:

kingkong62: "The Democrats are the party that started the KKK, that started slavery..."

Where does one begin to address such foolishness? And this is coming from someone who claims to be a black man, although clearly not a fully educated one. Now, no, I'm not about to tell you that the Democratic Party, especially the southern Democratic Party, was not the party of slavery, racism, and hateful violence. The KKK was indeed created by Nathan Bedford Forrest. Abraham Lincoln, a Republican president, freed the slaves. And southern Dems fought for Jim Crow well into the 60's.

But kingkong62, I cannot forgive you for your pitiable ignorance of the historic realignment that took place over the very issue of black civil rights. How can a modern black man think of himself as educated and know nothing of the Dixiecrats? How can you be ignorant of the vast defection of southern Democrats from the party over LBJ's signing the Civil Rights Act? Let me lay this out for you very slowly and carefully for you, so there is no misunderstanding:

THE...PARTIES...SWITCHED...SIDES!

And they did it over the very issue that you are trying to blame today's Democrats for. How is it you've never heard of Richard Nixon's famous Southern Strategy, a nefarious plan to exploit the native racism of southern whites newly converted to the Republican Party for electoral victory? I'm sorry, but you're going to have to do one of three things: either turn in your Official Black Person Membership Card, turn in your Official Conservative Membership Card, or dammit, turn in your Library Card, because you obviously have about as much use for it as a Republican male does with an adult, sexually available woman.

JC

BOBBY'S BACK

I can foresee a need for one of these...

Not two weeks ago, I heard Bobby Boom Boom McGee say he was finished arguing with people on Paltalk. Yet, tonight in MPIDC, he is again ranting and raving about the evil Joooz. Better get one of these ready, Bobby, you'll be needing it soon.

JC

OBAMARAMA VS. THE HILLARY-PILLARY

The most intriguing irony in watching the Clinton/Obama debates in MPIDC has been the virulent about-face that a surprising majority of the Paltalk womenfolk have undergone in just a few short weeks. To criticize Hillary in the early part of January would often bring on accusations of sexism and misogyny whereas today, to even mention that Barack wore a bad tie brings on the wrath of the ladies as if one had insulted their body-shapes. In publicly stoning their alpha-female it seems they are deferring the opportunity for a female president for another century or two. Woe that I neglected to copy/save some of the posts that have come my way in recent days.

To me, the issue has boiled down to political strategy 101: how do the Dems prevent Darth McCain from stealing the next election? It is not an easy question, however, if the Paltalk 'sample' is any reference, it would appear the grass-roots Dems have decided to use the bandwagon-strategy and shun and humiliate those who question whether Obama can win the presidency to the sidelines. Innuendo and outright accusations of racism are being hurled at anyone who shares the view that Obama is a very risky proposition in terms of the real electoral test in about nine months. Of course Hillary is a risky proposition too, given that the aforesaid Dems threw out their best chance in John Edwards some time ago. But amnesiac Americans seem to have overlooked how the real process works, particularly from the GOP side of the equation: Mr. Obama is wide-open for an assault on his character, his 'philosophy', and his past misdeeds in the same way that John Kerry was tasered in 04. It simply doesn't matter if the smear is true or not - trailer-brained Americans will buy it all as fact and they make up a huge electoral force both in peer influence and diebold lever-pulling. In my opinion Hillary has been thoroughly and brutally pre-trashed for years by the dark forces and there really isn't much more they can throw at her leaving her in a stronger position whereas Barack is still a relative smear-virgin, leaving him extremely vulnerable to unexpected broadsides.

I have the gut feeling that repugs and corpmedia are rubbing their hands at the prospect of the Dems ascending Obama as their cherished candidate.. From there his destruction would be a slow, steady, and expanding process of exposing him as simply too tainted and new to be considered for the highest office in the land. Obama has demonstrated a rather weak response to accusations of any sort thus far - but what if the Sinclair allegations are 'substantiated' by other creepy people with similar stories? I have already seen early indications of this oozing out of blogs etc. And there is the Rezko trial, conveniently just underway right now. What if Obama is exposed as having participated in shady land deals, cover-ups, and profiteering? There is high probability this trial will expose him to significant degradation regardless. These and numerous other petards may begin to explode shortly after Hillary drops out of the race, which could happen soon if she gets trounced next week. Paltalkians of course will discount them and assume anybody in their right mind would do so also. But that is naive. Mr. Obama is a sitting duck for all that is horrible about U.S. politics and every hint, assertion, and provable fact will stick like velcro to the minds of the semi-literate hordes.

I'll conclude by saying that even though I think both candidates are sub-par I genuinely hope I'm wrong; that Obama will squash McCain and go on to a productive presidency. Likewise for Hillary should she overcome the odds and become the nominee in reasonably legitimate fashion. But I can't escape the feeling that media and the GOP are engineering American minds for a default McCain win via Mr. O.

GREAT MOMENTS IN CONSERVATIVE STUPIDITY, #3,564,335

2/27/08 - 2:35 AM EST

LUMINOL (on mic) - "Barack Obama wants to withdraw a brigade a month from Iraq. That'll take 4 to 5 years!"

# of troops in Iraq - 170,000
# of troops in a brigade - (according to LUMINOL) 5000
170,000/5000 = 34 months

So sorry, your answer was only off by a couple of years. Good luck repeating 5th grade math.

JC

GREAT MOMENTS IN CONSERVATIVE STUPIDITY, #3,564,334

2/26/08 - 8:39 PM EST:

tommyjohnson44: doesnt matter who you take money from you are beholding to someone

What we are BEHOLDING is that you are a dumbass. You should not feel BEHOLDEN to your teachers, they obviously failed you miserably.

JC

THEIST "LOGIC"

It's hard not to laugh out loud at the hysterical reasoning put forth by some theists. Have a look at these gems:

Tawk Soup: JUST HARD TO FATHOM THERE ISN'T A GOD ---- WHEN 9 MONTHS LATER ... A PERFECT 8 POUND BABY WITH ALL IT'S TOES AND FINGERS ENTERS THE WORLD HEALTHY

Tawk Soup: NALD --- HARD TO FATHOM THERE ISN'T A GOD ----WHEN THE " EARTH IS PERFECTLY PLACED 93 MILLION MILES FROM THE SUN ...... NOT TOO HOT .... NOT TOO COLD

What can one say about such lame attempts at rational thought? Oh my yes, it's a miracle when a baby is born, just like it happens every few seconds every day. This is a classic logical fallacy. Just because something IS a certain way, theists take that to mean it must have been DESIGNED that way, even though we know that the universe, both physically and biologically, functions according to natural laws. If those laws were different, then life as we know it would also be...wait for it...different!

Theists insist that those natural laws were designed, but they literally cannot wrap their tiny minds around the concept that those laws could just as easily be different, and we would be living in a universe where those DIFFERENT laws seemed absolutely perfect as well! In fact, I can't think of a scenario where some form of life somewhere, living under some set of natural laws, would not also think those laws perfectly designed for them. Clearly, this thought is too complex and abstract for a person like Tawk Soup to comprehend.

And how can it be significant that the Earth is the "perfect" distance from the sun to sustain our kind of life? Other planets may exist where other forms of life are thriving in their "perfect" environment. I can just imagine the Ejovidian version of Tawk Soup turning to his friend and glomphing, "Isn't it so amazing that our atmosphere is 70% methane and the temperature is -34 degrees? How perfect is that? It must be designed by the Great Tentacled One in the Sky!"

I really wish the level of reasoning from the average Paltalk theist would improve. Come on folks, you gotta bring your "A" game!

JC

THE SPIN MASTERS

Looks like Republicans are running short of ammunition for their smear tactics. Yesterday in Mainstream Politics in Debate Central tommyjohnson44 made the fatal mistake of trying to smear the New York Times by accusing them of lying about John McCain. As “proof” of his allegations he offered a link to one of those Republican tabloids that spin the truth until it’s unrecognizable. At issue was the article in the Times that recently drew fire from all the talking heads: For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses its Own Risk.

As you can see by the title, the piece had little to do with McCain’s sex life but, rather, focused on his sometimes reckless disregard for the public image he’s managed to create in the minds of his constituents. It seems McCain would like people to believe that he’s a man of integrity and ethics – a hero in the struggle to halt the free flow of “soft money.” He’s even criticized members of his own party for taking what could be seen as bribes from special interest groups – free dinners, vacations, the use of private jets, etc. Yet a cursory glance at McCain’s personal life would cause the average person to question his role on the Senate Ethics Committee.

The piece offers a long list of behaviors that seem to contradict McCain’s public position on the role of lobbyists in Washington. My personal favorite is their account of the incident at the Willard Hotel where dozens of lobbyists were invited to a fund raiser for McCain’s 2000 bid for the White House. When Bush supporters gathered outside the building to mock the event, McCain’s team responded by pinning buttons on the lobbyists' shirts that read “McCain voted against my bill.”

The central argument of the piece is that McCain has grown so confident in the ability of his public image to deflect criticism that he pays little attention to the blaring contradictions he sets up with the company he keeps. His relationship to Vicki Iseman is offered only as an example of how he recklessly undermines his otherwise impeccable reputation as a man of ethics.
But, as you undoubtedly already know, neocons have a tendency to zoom in on anything that seems to suggest sexual impropriety, even if it's only a remote association. That’s about the only topic their limited intellects can handle.

So it’s no wonder that tommyjohnson44 failed to read the article and chose instead to rely on the Republican spin machine to give him the “facts,” namely that the Times had accused McCain of having an extramarital affair. In all fairness, I must say that the authors of the piece could’ve avoided any confusion had they chosen to mention Iseman in a later paragraph. But given their short attention span the neocons would’ve stopped reading after the first paragraph and missed the Iseman mention altogether, which brings to mind the oft repeated question on the part of one Paltalk chatter, kcgentz – Why oh why are republicans so stupid?

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BOUNCE N' POUNCE

Having been bounced from Mainstream today by @Carmen for pasting the dictionary definition of the word 'snigger' which means A disrespectful laugh, and for which she had dotted BigMac for using prior to my arrival, I have realized the error of my ways and thought I'd try to make it up to her by posting a jpeg of Barack being fitted for his inaugural suit. Carmen's very protective of her messiah and I also should have known better than to have questioned his infallibility in a post prior to the bounce :(

TOMMYTELETHON

You people eat this stuff?

tommyjohnson44 just demonstrated to the room the sad state of, at the very least, his personal economy, when he said:

"I'm jes' waitin' fer the price of crawfish to come down so I kin git some."

Now, I'm not that familiar with the commodity prices of what are basically underwater cockroaches, but it seems unconscionable that in the most prosperous nation in the world, people like tommyjohnson44 would need to choose between paying rent, utilities, or the succulent crunch of aquatic insects.

Please, won't you dig deep into your hearts and wallets, and contribute to The tommyjohnson44 Crawfish Fund? A watery bug is a terrible thing to waste.

Make checks payable to:

The tommyjohnson44 Underwater Cockroach Fund
c/o The Shady Pines Trailer Park, Lot 159
Booniesplat, LA, 44556

JC

LAND MASS COMPARISON

FINALLY, A REPUBLICAN WITH CLARITY

kingkong62 just got off the mic in Mainstream, and I must admit I am happy to see there are some Republicans with a clear idea of what their party is. He said, among other things:

"McCain is a Bush cocksucker."
"The Republican party is a mess."

Bravo, my friend, I could not agree more. You may yet fight off that conservative infection.

JC

THE SAD STATE OF LOUSYANA PUBLIC SCHOOLS

tommyjohnson44 is one of the dimmest bulbs in Social Issues. He was just on mic reading from a website, (which is obnoxious anyway) when he encountered the extremely difficult English word, "anecdotal," which he proceeded to pronounce, "ants-i-dotal," three separate times. Now mispronouncing a word once is no cause for alarm, but this is clearly how tommy thinks that word is pronounced. So very, very sad.

I fear for the future of public school students in the state of Lousyana if this is a representative sample of its products.

JC

JAY'S CORONATION

Lord Jay 156 cops a feel

Dateline Paltalkia - The Toodur royal family announced today the creation of Lord Jay 156, knight of Northumberland and Lower Mississippi. Reports confirm that the king used a ten foot pole rather than the traditional longsword, as, in his words, "The stench was nigh unbearable, wot wot."

Anonymous sources claim that Jay lobbied heavily for the elevation, primarily owing to his unrequited, and downright creepy, obsessive mancrush on LordMercifulVoo. As a commoner, jay_156 was ineligible for a formal marriage (and you know how eager he is to get into his white wedding gown). Unfortunately for Lord Jay, reports from Voo's camp indicate that the promised dowry, consisting of 3 decrepit mobile homes, ten roughly sexually abused sheep, and a rusted out Ford truck on cinderblocks, would not be enough to persuade Voo. Besides, he's not gay. At least not for that price.

Rumors persist that Lord Jay 156 intended to go to war to force the marriage to take place, but owing to the fact that Jay is a chickenhawk with an intense fear of fighting, war, horses, mud, pain, and strawberries, the planned invasion was scrapped.

More details to follow, as Jay is clearly not finished wooing his beloved...

JC

A word about the Election.....

Could someone explain to me why the whole fucking world believes that the Democratic party is split? I don't see it that way. I see two very strong leaders who are ready to take over from the current jackasses in the White House The repukes are running for cover because they have no one who can match up. Either way, America wins and big business loses.
Thank you.
ZM

READ MY LIPS

THE ZOMBIE AND THE GNOME

Once upon a time long time ago there was a man who had the future ahead of him. In his heart, he wanted to do the right thing admist the noise of the crowd. When his ideas began to clash with those around him, he began to build a wall around himself to protect himself from the voices. Inside of his cell he began to rot anyway until he was no longer human. He was not phyiscally dead but his heart and soul died inside of that box.

The Gnome came along and found the box and knocked on the door. She could see the light on but nobody came to the door. She looked inside of the window and saw the man who was now a zombie. She began to walk away in fear, yet his face remained in her mind as she walked away. The next day while on her rounds, she came upon the same walled up box she saw yesterday. She saw the zombie walking toward it. She had a full view of his face and remembered that it was the man she saw many years ago. The zombie saw her and in fear quickly walked inside of the wall and slammed the door shut.

The Gnome went home and decided to write a note to the zombie. When she finally wrote the letter she considered the best, she put in a bottle. She looked at the bottle and wondered if this was the right thing to do, then she went to bed.

The next day on her way to town she threw the bottle over the wall.She didn't hear it fall...............


To be Continued....
ZM

HOW TO SPIN

Bourgeois Politics
Here's how to put the spin on.

Judy Wallman, a professional genealogical researcher, discovered that
Hillary Clinton's great-great uncle, Remus Rodham, was hanged for
horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889.

The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows.
On the back of the picture is this inscription: "Remus Rodham; horse
thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed
the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives convicted
and hanged in 1889."

Judy emailed Hillary Clinton for comments. Hillary's staff of
professional image adjusters sent back the following biographical
sketch: "Remus Rodham was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory .
His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable
equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad.
Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to service at
a government facility, finally taking leave to resume his dealings
with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital
investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency.
In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in
his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.*

And that is how it's done folks.

I'M BACK!

Did ya miss me?

SANTA BAGHDAD

LOGIC BEATS GREED

The real answer to climate change is to leave fossil fuels in the ground

All the talk in Bali about cutting carbon means nothing while ever more oil and coal is being extracted and burned

George Monbiot Tuesday December 11, 2007 (the guardian)
Ladies and gentlemen, I have the answer! Incredible as it might seem, I have stumbled across the single technology which will save us from runaway climate change! From the goodness of my heart, I offer it to you for free. No patents, no small print, no hidden clauses. Already this technology, a radical new kind of carbon capture and storage, is causing a stir among scientists. It is cheap, it is efficient and it can be deployed straight away. It is called ... leaving fossil fuels in the ground.
On a filthy day last week, as governments gathered in Bali to prevaricate about climate change, a group of us tried to put this policy into effect. We swarmed into the opencast coal mine being dug at Ffos-y-fran in South Wales and occupied the excavators, shutting down the works for the day. We were motivated by a fact which the wise heads in Bali have somehow missed: if fossil fuels are extracted, they will be used.
Most of the governments of the rich world now exhort their citizens to use less carbon. They encourage us to change our lightbulbs, insulate our lofts, turn our televisions off at the wall. In other words, they have a demand-side policy for tackling climate change. But as far as I can determine, not one of them has a supply-side policy. None seeks to reduce the supply of fossil fuel. So the demand-side policy will fail. Every barrel of oil and tonne of coal that comes to the surface will be burned.
Or perhaps I should say that they do have a supply-side policy: to extract as much as they can. Since 2000, the UK government has given coal firms £220m to help them open new mines or to keep existing mines working. According to the energy white paper, the government intends to "maximise economic recovery ... from remaining coal reserves".
The pit at Ffos-y-fran received planning permission after two ministers in the Westminster government jumped up and down on Rhodri Morgan, the first minister of the Welsh assembly. Stephen Timms at the department of trade and industry listed the benefits of the scheme and demanded that the application "is resolved with the minimum of further delay". His successor, Mike O'Brien, warned of dire consequences if the pit was not granted permission. The coal extracted from Ffos-y-fran alone will produce 29.5m tonnes of carbon dioxide: equivalent, according to the latest figures from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, to the sustainable emissions of 55 million people for one year.
Last year British planning authorities considered 12 new applications for opencast coal mines. They approved all but two of them. Two weeks ago, Hazel Blears, the secretary of state in charge of planning, overruled Northumberland county council to grant permission for an opencast mine at Shotton, on the grounds that the scheme - which will produce 9.3m tonnes of CO2 - is "environmentally acceptable".
The British government also has a policy of "maximising the UK's existing oil and gas reserves". To promote new production, it has granted companies a 90% discount on the licence fees they pay for prospecting the continental shelf. It hopes the prospecting companies will open a new frontier in the seas to the west of the Shetland Isles. The government also has two schemes for "forcing unworked blocks back into play". If oil companies don't use their licences to the full, it revokes them and hands them to someone else. In other words, it is prepared to be ruthlessly interventionist when promoting climate change, but not when preventing it: no minister talks of "forcing" companies to reduce their emissions. Ministers hope the industry will extract up to 28bn barrels of oil and gas from the continental shelf.
Last week the government announced a new tax break for companies working in the North Sea. The Treasury minister, Angela Eagle, explained that its purpose is "to make sure we are not leaving any oil in the ground that could be recovered". The government's climate change policy works like this: extract every last drop of fossil fuel then pray to God that no one uses it.
The same wishful thinking is applied worldwide. The International Energy Agency's new outlook report warns that "urgent action is needed" to cut carbon emissions. The action it recommends is investing $22 trillion in new energy infrastructure, most of which will be spent on extracting, transporting and burning fossil fuels.
Aha, you say, but what about carbon capture and storage? When governments use this term, they mean catching and burying the carbon dioxide produced by burning fossil fuels. It is feasible, but there are three problems. The first is that fossil fuels are being extracted and burned today, and scarcely any carbon capture schemes yet exist. The second is that the technology works only for power stations and large industrial processes: there is no plausible means of dealing with cars, planes and heating systems. The third, as Alistair Darling, then in charge of energy, admitted in the Commons in May, is that the technologies required for commercial carbon capture "might never become available". (The government is prepared to admit this when making the case, as he was, for nuclear power, but not when making it for coal).
Almost every week I receive an email from someone asking what the heck I am talking about. Don't I realise that peak oil will solve this problem for us? Fossil fuels will run out, we'll go back to living in caves and no one will need to worry about climate change again. These correspondents make the mistake of conflating conventional oil supplies with all fossil fuels. Yes, at some point the production of petroleum will peak then go into decline. I don't know when this will happen, and I urge environmentalists to remember that while we have been proved right about most things we have been consistently wrong about the dates for mineral exhaustion. But before oil peaks, demand is likely to outstrip supply and the price will soar. The result is that the oil firms will have an even greater incentive to extract the stuff.
Already, encouraged by recent prices, the pollutocrats are pouring billions into unconventional oil. Last week BP announced a huge investment in Canadian tar sands. Oil produced from tar sands creates even more carbon emissions than petroleum extraction. There's enough tar and kerogen in North America to cook the planet several times over.
If that runs out, they switch to coal, of which there is hundreds of years' supply. Sasol, the South African company founded during the apartheid period - when supplies of oil were blocked - to turn coal into liquid transport fuel, is conducting feasibility studies for new plants in India, China and the US. Neither geology nor market forces is going to save us from climate change.
When you review the plans for fossil fuel extraction, the horrible truth dawns that every carbon-cutting programme is a con. Without supply-side policies, runaway climate change is inevitable, however hard we try to cut demand. The talks in Bali will be meaningless unless they produce a programme for leaving fossil fuels in the ground.

HABIB TESTIMONY

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22838446-949,00.html

Shocking details of torture in Pakistan. I am posting the full article because you can expect a clamp down very soon.
"Before I take the step of closing the court I would need to have a proper basis for doing so," the judge said."

This story needs to get exposure in the USA.

FORMER Guantanamo Bay detainee Mamdouh Habib says he was injected with drugs in front of an Australian official while being interrogated in Pakistan.
Mr Habib was visibly distressed while giving evidence today at a second-stage defamation hearing in the NSW Supreme Court, weeping and at one point asking for a break as he spoke of his alleged torture.
Justice David McClellan is hearing evidence on defences and damages in Mr Habib's defamation case against Nationwide News.
Nationwide News is owned by the parent company of the publisher of News.com.au
A jury earlier found that an opinion piece by columnist Piers Akerman defamed Mr Habib by implying he falsely made claims about torture.
Mr Habib told the court today he had been beaten with sticks, kicked and suspended by his wrists from the ceiling for hours at a time, and had been given electric shocks that were so severe he fainted.
He had been deprived of sleep and blankets and served food that was so bad "you can't even smell it".
Egyptian-born Mr Habib said he had been drugged during his imprisonment in Pakistan and Egypt, sometimes daily.
"I feel like a crazy, I would say stuff like a mental person," he said.
"I lost all my memory, I don't know where I am, I don't know who I am."
Mr Habib said he had been given a needle containing drugs before his second interview in Islamabad in October 2001.
"Before and in the middle (of the interview)," he told the court.
A man who had introduced himself as Alastair Adams, an Australian official, had been present while this occurred, Mr Habib said.
Other Australians, as well as Americans, were present at a number of other interrogations and interviews, he said.
Mr Habib said that in Egypt, he was shocked with Taser guns and a powered machine with voltage controls.
His fingers were all broken and the nails torn away, he said.
Mr Habib was unable to go on, closing his eyes and turning away from the court when asked what his torturers did with dogs.
"They tied up my hands behind my back and they put shackles on my feet, and I have to be naked," he said.
"My face was on the floor because the dog (was) on the top of me, they do sexual things."
Mr Habib's lawyers argue that he was "shackled, drugged and tortured" during some of his interrogations, making their content inadmissible as evidence.
Nationwide News barrister Alec Leopold tendered documents in support of his case, including letters from Mr Habib to former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.
Copies of Mr Habib's passport and travel records were also tendered, along with transcripts of various interviews with Mr Habib conducted by ASIO and federal police officers.
The tendered material has not yet been released to the media, pending consent by federal intelligence agencies.
Mr Leopold said a number of officers, codenamed Officer 1, 2 and 3, would be called as witnesses on Friday, and he flagged the possible need for their evidence to be heard in closed court.
Justice McClellan said he was reluctant to do so.
"Before I take the step of closing the court I would need to have a proper basis for doing so," the judge said.
Mr Habib's evidence continues.